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Originally posted by Linerrich:
Alternative dinner on Silver Sea (Le Degustation Champagne Dinner) is $200.00 p.p. when booked on board, $150.00 p.p. when booked and paid before sailing. (And I have clients who do several of these on a voyage!)

Rich

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It's only $30 if you don't take their wine pairings!

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Originally posted by mike sa:
Tony you beat me to it.

I often use the extra tarrif restaurnats, the service and of course food is 99% of the time worth it - but $75 plus wine........I don't think so and suspect that Disney's guests might feel the same.

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I'm not so sure about that. Disney guests are quite accustomed to spending money, and willing to do so if they feel they are getting something very special in return.

Remy on DISNEY DREAM is modeled after Disney's Victoria & Alberts at the Grand Floridian Hotel in Walt Disney World. This is the most expensive restaurant on any Disney property, and it can be VERY difficult to obtain reservations. My partner and I dined there several years ago and it was a totally over the top, incredible experience. Truly gourmet all the way, Disney style.

Based on the success of Victoria & Alberts, and the spending habits of many high value Disney guests, I'm guessing Remy is going to do just fine.

Here I can go to a number of 5 star rated restuarants in Durban that can and do compare well to the very best overseas and a similar meal will cost half of that and I didn't have to pay the cruise fare !

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Originally posted by mike sa:

Like I said it is relative so it is not really a fair comparison but still $75 each to me seems expensive.

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I totally agree it's expensive. I'm just saying I bet Disney won't have a problem filling the restaurant. They are not a "typical" mass-market cruise line.

i presume this 75 US dollars is an extra charge

normally to pay 75 usd for a good meal is nothing special indeed, however i understand that the
Disney fares to start cruising are quite high compared to others...

i think it is quiet nice to have an opprtunity to have
something extra, may-be not for every day, but for a good celebration it might be very appropiate

(sorry for my english)

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Originally posted by buddhaJoe:
hi lasuvida boy

i would say travel the world and find out that it is not
particulary much...

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We have-frequently and it is a still high when you factor in that wine is not included. Of course we are generally spoiled in the States as prices can be lower than many other countries. Disney does provide top quality so they won't have a problem filling that restaurant.

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
$75.00 without wine?? That is very high even for a 5 star land restaurant. I don't drink and the most I think I've paid for dinner at a great restaurant here in Beverly Hills was around $60.00. Of course add wine and the sky is the limit!

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75 dollar is not much. Over here there are no 5 star restaurants only hotels. The highest star ratings are the Michelin rating of 3 stars. Prices fore dinning in such high end restaurants are very expensive up to 200 to 600 euro's and up, is not exceptional and normal. There are people who travel around Europe to eat in these 3 star restaurants.

75 dollar fore Disney is not very expensive Disney have always boost quite high prices. But they are on the high end of the mass market holiday business.

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
The cost is all relative based on what a meal costs in Europe compared to the States. Here in the States $75.00, for dinner w/out wine is'nt exactly 'reasonable'. I asked a few of my friends last night at dinner at Mastros Steakhouse in Beverly Hills (not exactly a bargain restaurant ) what they thought of that set price for dinner and they ALL thought it was high-again considering that wine was not part of the pre-set menu.

We simply don't pay that much for a nice dinner in a fine restaurant here. One of the first times I noticed the incredible difference in prices between the States and Europe was at a car dealer back in the late 1980s. I looked at an Audi at a showroom in Vienna that was basically the same car as mine in the States. The difference was the car in the Austrian showroom was priced considerably higher w/all the added taxes. Even though the car was built in nearby Germany, my car was thousands of dollars less (and mine had leather upholstery!) and that included transporting it to the US west coast. The price of meals in Europe must include much higher taxes-something we just don't pay here.

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We have good quality restaurants which prices are not high and you cane have a three course meal fore 20/35 euros exclusive wines or other drinks. Included taxes.

yep you're RIGHT, it has also a lot to do with taxes, which almost come to 20% here in the Netherlands

take petrol (gasoline), we pay 1.55 euros for 1 litre
that would mean 8,2 usd for a gallon
for a ordinary house we pay up to 200.000

1 euro > 1.4 usd

Ben is also right, you can have a nice meal
for 30 euros, but more often this is at the lower scale

the taxes make most products much more expensive (cars, everything really)

it's 1 of the big differences between
so called socialist welfare states in Europe
and the capital (financial) system in the us with much lower taxes

i don't judge the sytems, but it does explain why we look sometimes different on money and so on...

best regards,
Joe

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Originally posted by Frosty 4:

I just talked to someone in St Thomas V.I. and they said even with all the cruise ships, business is way down. People just are not spending.
Frosty 4

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Many people still seem to be spending money on vacations and cruises as seen w/the profits of the major cruise lines. Even w/discounting, the lines still seem to be making a profit-even during the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression!

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
$75.00 without wine?? That is very high even for a 5 star land restaurant. I don't drink and the most I think I've paid for dinner at a great restaurant here in Beverly Hills was around $60.00. Of course add wine and the sky is the limit!

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To the other discussion, $75 per person for a 3 course dinner really isn't that much in a semi high end restaurant, when you get to the 5 star restaurant, sorry, but $75 will get you the cheese plate.

The French Laundry is $250pp (not including wine)
Alex is easily $350 (not including wine)
The Fat Duck is $250 (not including wine)

Sorry, but $75 pp puts you firmly in the Ruths Cris/ Mortons area, which while nice, they cannot be considered good.

Ok, I admit it, i'm a food snob

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Over $100.00 is for a completely different type of menu. We paid that when L'Orangerie was still in open in L.A. but rarely since. Even when at the better restuarants in Vegas you can easily pay over $100.00 per person but those are in a different league.

I'm not a food snob and would rather spend $$ on things I really enjoy.

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Actually though, we were on the Carnival Spirit a couple of weeks ago, we ate at their steak house and I have to say, for a $30 surcharge it is a great meal and well worth the extra money, the same goes for the Pinnacle grill on HAL.

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