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Mattsudds
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posted 01-16-2014 04:13 PM      Profile for Mattsudds     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
P&O Cruises have made a New Livery announcement. It appears that they want to become the British flag waving line.
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Ernst
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posted 01-16-2014 04:46 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Changing a traditional livery of a traditional passenger shipping line will for sure cause an outcry amongst ship enthusiasts. I am however convinced that this must not play a role - time changes, so does P&O.

Unfortunately, the new livery is ugly and foremost very tacky - and that's the case not just because it's new or different to the old livery - more the contrary, it's a missed opportunity to do something original (A Union Jack on the bow? Are you serious?).


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Mattsudds
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posted 01-16-2014 05:28 PM      Profile for Mattsudds     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And the irony of doing this livery on ships registered in Bermuda....
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SSTRAVELER
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posted 01-16-2014 06:59 PM      Profile for SSTRAVELER     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Remember this was only a "modern" P&O livery. The true traditional P&O livery had black hulls and funnels in the 1920s and 1930s. The cruising white only became the fleet standard after World War II.

Aren't you glad they did not name this new ship Canberra and put THAT livery on her?


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rd77
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posted 01-17-2014 03:31 AM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
God that is nasty, it looks something you'd put on an airplane.
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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 01-17-2014 09:31 AM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks like it is a left over from ' British Airways '

This is what happens when you get someone coming from a hotel company within the UK brewing industry ( Premier Inns ) with no experience of cruise ships or running a cruising company.

Wonder when they will add the ' Crowns ' to the bows of the Cunard liners as they come under the same management team !

It should be interesting to see the re-action when the ships visit some South American ports !
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Thad
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posted 01-17-2014 10:54 AM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the livery looks even worse on the more traditional ships in their fleet.


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PamM
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posted 01-17-2014 10:59 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The funnel is fine, about time they got rid of the mustard imho. The rest is also super provided the ship is being used as an accommodation vessel for UK Football Supporters at some World Cup venue; at all other times it's an embarrassment.

Pam


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VDK
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posted 01-17-2014 02:13 PM      Profile for VDK   Email VDK   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very unoriginal and I am not too sure how it's even connected to what "P&O" stands for.
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jetwet1
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posted 01-18-2014 10:42 AM      Profile for jetwet1   Author's Homepage   Email jetwet1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dear lord, that is just ghastly.
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Westerdam
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posted 01-18-2014 04:30 PM      Profile for Westerdam   Email Westerdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am not nuts about it myself it just looks a little odd to me. More or less is this not rehash of the P&O Australia livery from about 10 or so years ago? With a few modifications of course.
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reeves35
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posted 01-18-2014 10:37 PM      Profile for reeves35   Email reeves35   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The funnels are very reminiscent of the P&O Australia livery introduced on Pacific Sky. It will be interesting to see if P&O Australia also modify their livery which is currently a complete non-livery.

There has been much talk that Carnival will retire the P&O Aust brand now that Carnival is gaining traction down here the problem is the current ships lack many of the features of the Carnival Spirit class so cannot easily be rebranded as Carnival ships.


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goodclicks
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posted 01-19-2014 05:22 AM      Profile for goodclicks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not classy. It fits with my experience on board Ventura however (and probably will look better on the Grand class ships) but I can't imagine it's the impression the management wants to create for the brand - unless it's another step in P&O's move downmarket to differentiate them from Cunard.
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Ernst
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posted 01-19-2014 05:35 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by goodclicks:
[...]- unless it's another step in P&O's move downmarket to differentiate them from Cunard.

That's definitely what it is and it does make sense (they could still have chosen a good looking and less embarrassing livery).

I wonder whether some of their smaller & older ships will be moved to Cunard?

[ 01-19-2014: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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Fairsky
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posted 01-19-2014 03:40 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very disappointing. Looks more like a Fun Ship party cruise than the elegant liners P&Os heritage calls for. It seems clear that CarnivalCorp wants to make P&O a mass market brand for the UK so Cunard can occupy the premium market.

The livery just has too many bright colors to be seen as elegant: red, blue, yellow-- it looks like a circus. Celebrity learned this lesson when the M-ships launched with a new livery including yellow and red accents. It just didn't fit the elegant branding of an upscale line. Eventually they repainted the ships in the more appropriate blue/white livery.

I may have been ok with the new P&O look if it had been either the flag on the bow or the blue/yellow funnels. All of it together is just too juvenile.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 01-19-2014 08:18 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For some reason it reminds me of Sitmar's very short lived swan livery.
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VDK
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posted 01-19-2014 11:46 PM      Profile for VDK   Email VDK   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess the only thing left to do is change the names to - "P&O ARCADIA", "P&O ORIANA" etc, that way they are completely the same as nearly all the other mass cruise lines...
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Salaison
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posted 01-20-2014 10:05 AM      Profile for Salaison   Email Salaison   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Because we don't have enough blue funnels running around...how original .....sighs. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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oslo dutch
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posted 01-20-2014 01:29 PM      Profile for oslo dutch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I cruises Oriana way back in 1999 it was a very classy experience. Nowadays I don't even want to try P&O again as I fear it's going to be a disappointing experience.

I am not really excited about this but more worried what is really behind this piece of corporate spin.
Is P&O gradually downgraded to cheap UK Carnival product? Reviews of Azura and Ventura seem already seem to point that way.

Right now is an odd mixture of a lot of cruise styles like Cunard in the eighties. Mr Edgington made it clear Ocean Village was not a commercial success, even though in the long term it might be an option to split it up to a more upmarket and a more casual brand.

But which CEO still think long term these days??


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