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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-07-2000 09:44 AM

For a while it looked as if Airships might provide a real rival to Ocean Liners on transatlantic crossings and other transcontinental routes.

There is an exciting new project to build a new giant 'CargoLifter' airship, as big as the Hindeburg.

They are already building the giant hangar (see the live cam).

See: http://www.cargolifter.com/english/

Try this fun slide show too: http://www.cargolifter.com/english/frameset/kompass.html#

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-07-2000 10:03 AM

A size comparison of the Hindenburg with a 747 and the Titanic. The Titanic is only 78 feet longer than the Hindenburg at 882 feet long.

From: http://www.ciderpresspottery.com/ZLA/greatzeps/Great_Zepps.html

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posted 05-09-2000 05:24 AM

It is amazing such a huge vessel could fly.

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Joe at PwC
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posted 05-09-2000 12:56 PM

Keep in mind that, while the ship's frame and gondola certainly had a reasonable degree of weight, the hull was filled with helium, enough to counter the effect of the weight. It would be like tying a small pencil to the string hanging from a helium balloon and seeing if that would be enough to keep it from taking off!

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-09-2000 02:20 PM

Joe is spot on. Here are a few details of the proposed Airship's:

"The first generation of CargoLifters, the CL160s, are intended to carry payloads of up to 160 tonnes - at a speed of 80 to 100 km/h and a maximum height of 2,000 meters non-stop over several thousand kilometers".

The early airships had something in common with the Ocean Liners, 'Luxuary'!

"A double staircase led down to the interior dining room. The dining and central space had galleries in which passenger could get to the accommodation. Flanked on each side were two large panoramic windows allowing a two tier promenade deck giving the interior a large open and light feel".

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-12-2000 05:36 PM

"Cunard" not only did they fly, they provided the fastest way to cross the Atlantic at the time. They were the 'Jumbo' jets of there day!

However, as you can see the passengers travelled in luxuary - not economy class with plastic food!

Maybe I'm mad, but I think that one day we will see passenger carrying 'Airships' again. The original idea was sound, but the technology today is better!

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posted 05-13-2000 02:33 AM

You may find that one day they have a "private Air ship" a way to travel in luxury - slowly for the business man to hold a conference or the multi millionaire.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-15-2000 05:12 PM

That's a very interesting idea "Cunard".

Some of the great Airships of the past, such as the British R101 had a top speed of 80 miles per hour. So although much slower than a plane, they were faster than the Ocean Liners.

Below is the 1/8 scale model of the Cargolifter.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-20-2000 04:47 PM

Here is a link to the live cam of the giant hanger building project, for the Cargolifter.

http://195.88.0.194/webcam/hugesize.jpg

Make sure you look when it is daylight in Germany!

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-05-2000 04:40 PM

The new CargoLifter hanger under costruction:

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KruzinKat
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posted 06-06-2000 01:42 PM

That last shot reminds me of my childhood! There was a blimp hanger - with blimps - at the Weymouth Naval Air Station in Weymouth, Massachusetts where I lived. The blimps were gone by the time I was a teen, but the Civil Air Patrol used the hanger for drills.(I was a member for a year or so before I graduated.) There was a spot on a road near the air base - a bridge crossing railroad tracks - that gave a great view of the hanger. Sadly, the hanger is long gone and the Air Station closed. Surrounding towns are now wrestling with the problem of what to do with the land - the usual arguments about maintaining a landing strip or not, building a shopping center or not, etc. I have fond memories of the great air shows held at the Base each year with the incredible Blue Angels, stunt fliers, and aircraft displays. Great hot dogs, too! It was free and made a wonderful weekend treat for a family of seven kids!

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-06-2000 02:37 PM

Kruzinkat, of course in their day the great Airships were 'state-of-the-art' intercontinental transport. Aircraft could not yet travel the great distances between the USA and Europe, and the Airships halved the sea journey.

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posted 06-08-2000 11:39 PM

I think a real ship is better tho

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CTrail
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posted 06-09-2000 07:31 AM

The site has certainly come a long wat from when I first saw the view cam over a year ago. There where only two cement support pillars erected at that time.

Haveagreatdayeveryone.

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