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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-24-2000 05:16 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here are some details of the Queen Mary 2:
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Cunard are satisfied that Alstom Chantiers de L'Atlantique shipyard in Saint-Nazaire, France, the shipyard that created the France, Normandie, and other legendary liners has the capability to make the dream a reality.

The Queen Mary 2 is expected to be launched in the last quarter of 2003. Once launched, Queen Mary 2 is intended to fly the British flag, with her homeport being Southampton, England.

The QM2 is expected to carry 2800 guests.
QM2 will measure over 1130 feet in length, just 117 feet shorter than the Empire State Building is tall. She'll tower nearly 21 stories in height from keel to masthead, with a gross registered tonnage of nearly 150,000 tons. She will have a 32ft & 10in draft

"A long slender hull that will slice and not pound its way across the Atlantic".

Power plant: Four pods hanging from the hull. Two of them fixed, pulling the ship, two of them able to rotate 360 degrees, negating the need for rudders or stern thrusters. Speed up to 30 Knots.

Combination of gas turbine and diesel electric propulsion - the most powerful engine room of any merchant ship.

Cost $700 million. ('Voyager of the Seas' cost $500). Much of the additional cost is because QM2 must be built stronger to withstand 50ft seas. Thicker steel for the hull, and distance between her transverse frames and veritable ribs will be shortened to create greater strength. A long bow will protect the house from the breaking waves.

The ship will offer a limited number of apartments for long term purchases. There will also be an onboard museum of liner memorabilia, a Kennel and possibly a garage.
Unlike the QE2, the QM2 will feature a wide wrap around promenade. Additionally there will be a forward observation lounge providing views of the bow.

(Information from Cunard Homepage and an Article by Ben Lyons, Ships Monthly)

Hands up all those that would like to book a cabin? Malcolm


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Ðraikar
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posted 05-24-2000 08:56 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I cannot wait until Chantiers de L'Atlantique shipyard starts building the Queen Mary 2, she should be an impressive site to look at.
On an interesting note from top of the funnel to the keel Titanic was 175 ft, Queen Mary (1) is 181 ft but the Queen Mary 2 is 236 ft.
Ðraikar

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kbozman
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posted 05-25-2000 12:08 AM      Profile for kbozman   Email kbozman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow Malcolm,

Just think, the same yards that created some
of the best, and best known ships to ever
cross the atlantic. Quite a legacy wouldn't
you say?. As soon as the QM 2 is ready for
it's maiden voyage, I'm booking !

kbozman


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JDCasey
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posted 05-26-2000 11:52 AM      Profile for JDCasey   Email JDCasey   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is just a thought. But......may be it is the Carnival influence to have the name in place but if Cunard follows a very old corporate tradition the name of its' ship will not be fixed until launch. Remember this is "Project Queen Mary 2". The original Queens were named for the reigning consorts. The QE2 was named in deference to a queen reignant.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-26-2000 03:38 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
JDcasey, I understand that the original Queen Mary's name was kept secret until she was 'named'. I have since read that the original idea was to call her the 'Queen Victoria'.

An interesting thought: the QE2 and Canberra were commandeered by the British Government and used for troop transport during the ‘Falkland Island’ crisis of 1982. I wonder is the British Government would have any jurisdiction over the QM2 in times of war? We are short of good troop ships!

Malcolm, London

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Cambodge
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posted 05-27-2000 08:23 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Can anyone supply URLs for technical publications and magazines on marine shipping in which one may find articles re the technical specs of this ship?

Example:
Gas turbo electric or diesel-electric? I for one would be uncomfortable on a ship with fuel tanks full of jet fuel!!

(I remember the "gee-whiz" jet-fuel-powered turbotrains of the 1970s. An accident in (I believe) Canada created an aircraft-crash type fireball!)

Another technical query. Are the flexible propulsion pods capable of contributing to forward speed, or do they just await their roles as thrusters and steering components?

I would like to do my own research on these and similar topics.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-27-2000 03:37 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another thought:

Unfortunately, we British are particularly good a maintaining class barriers. The QE2 has three grades of Restaurant, assigned to the various cabin grades. In other words, on the QE2, the more you pay, the better the food and service.

I wonder if the QM2 will maintain this tradition of class diferentiation? I do hope not!


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Paddy
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posted 05-27-2000 04:18 PM      Profile for Paddy   Email Paddy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm, you are right for the original plan to call queen Mary the Queen Victoria. Apparently Cunard wrote a letter to the King (I think Victoria's son or something) saying "Can we name our new ship after the greatest queen" (or something like that anyway), of course talking aboout Victoria, keeping with their tradition of the -ia ending to their ship names. But the King Whatshisface thought they were talking about Queen Mary, who I think was his wife (I studied geography rather than history!!!), and said "We would love you to name your ship "Queen Mary"". A rather embarrased Cunard couldn't very well tell the king he was stupid, could they, so hence the name Queen Mary.

But anyway. Does anyone else feel a sense of excitement at this new ultra luxurious and classy ship that must have been felt in the 1910's with the dawn of White Star's Olympic Class? So much technology and everything. I can't wait! If I coul;d afford it I would be on that ship!


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Guest
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posted 05-27-2000 09:53 PM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cunard has planned to set QM2 out like QE2 in regards to restaurant / grade.

On QE2, the Mauretania grade has great food and service, I have cruised both Mauretania and Britannia Grill Class and, apart from the more ' unique foods ' served in the Britannia Grill, I really don't see there to be an awful huge difference in the Standard of food, QE2's food is good in all grades. Service in the Mauretania is beyond reproach, I can not find one fault with it.

Of cause the Britannia Grill suite 1022, was much bigger then the Mauretania 5149

The Berlitz Guide to Cruising confuses me though, because it rates the "Ship" section for Grill Class higher then it rates the "Ship" section for Caronia or Mauretania. It's the same ship, how can it be rated differently? I really don't get that!

Mauretania Class should be 4+ star, Caronia 5 and Grill 5+. The Ships new interiors are absolutely magnificent (I have photo's, any one interested?) and I think the 2001 Berlitz guide will show a large boost in the QE2's Caronia and Mauretania Grade Scores. The new Caronia Restaurant is worth 5 stars on its own, It is just beautiful, and the changes made to the Mauretania Restaurant and Cabins are worth at least 4+. QE2 really looks her best today.

Sorry IM getting off the point here… to answer your question, QM2 will copy this system, as it has proved successful on QE2.


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JDCasey
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posted 05-28-2000 09:22 AM      Profile for JDCasey   Email JDCasey   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm, the Cunard company has always said the story about the naming of the Queen Mary was fiction but it does make a good story.
Following company tradition of a "IA" suffix, it was decided that hull 534 would be named "Victoria". The CEO of Cunard was hosting His Majesty, George V at a hunting party. When out of hearing of everyone, he asked the King if Cunard could have his permission to name the new ship for England's greatest Queen. George was very pleased. He readily gave his permission. Then he said, "I can not wait to tell her. She will be delighted". They had no choice, 534 was named for George's wife, Mary. When the next super liner was to be named, it was given the name of George VI wife, Elizabeth.

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Joe at PwC
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posted 06-04-2000 08:56 PM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I for one, at the very least, will be riverside to watch her come into New York on that first arrival (I kind of doubt I'll be able to afford passage unless I treat my car with kid gloves for the next three years). I am very excited to be able to see this entire state of affairs unfold.
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Ascendancy
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posted 06-05-2000 02:46 PM      Profile for Ascendancy   Email Ascendancy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not interested in any transatlantic cruises.
Surely they can pick a better itinerary than that.
Where exactly is it going?

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Rex
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posted 06-05-2000 02:54 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I, for one, would LOVE a transatlantic cruise...besides, that's why they are building her, for both transatlantic and regular cruises, she is to be a true ocean liner, not just some floating shoebox that goes from port to port.....one of my co-workers just came back from a Euro-cruise on the SPLENDOUR OF THE SEAS....loved the itinerary, the cabin and the crew...hated the food. We compared notes, apparently RCCL, she says, have really been cutting back on the food quality....when I went to Ensenada in 91, I ate mostly burgers and cold cuts, but her husband is a chef, so she should know what good food is...

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KruzinKat
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posted 06-06-2000 01:48 PM      Profile for KruzinKat   Email KruzinKat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We absolutely loved out trans-Atlantic cruise on Norway last year! It's a completely different kind of vacation - not sailing in a circle, jumping island to island, but having a "from here to there" itinerary. And all those wonderful days at sea to just enjoy the ship and the ocean. Heaven! We're very close to deciding on another trans-Atlantic for fall of 2001 - RCCL's Grandeur from Italy to Boston. (Another itinerary was listed in an article at Ken Stutt's site - starting in England and staying out of the Mediterranean before heading to Canada, Maine, and Boston. But the RCCL site lists the Italy departure point.) It's a 14-day journey and sounds heavenly! The chance of rough weather doesn't deter us - we'd just consider that part of the adventure (being sure the Bonine is packed). We definitely cruise for the chance to be on a ship at sea. Ahhhhhh.

KruzinKat


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-06-2000 02:30 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
KruzinKat, have you tried the QE2 yet: NY to Southampton or vice versa?
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Ascendancy
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posted 06-07-2000 08:38 AM      Profile for Ascendancy   Email Ascendancy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rex, I must defend my favorite cruise line's food. I'm not a chef, but I have never had a bad meal on RCCL in the 6 cruises I've been with them. Try the food first hand, please.

It can get a little chilly on those Transatlantic cruises. I like it +85° or better where the ocean refreshes you vs stopping your heart.


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Rex
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posted 06-08-2000 09:03 AM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Excuse me, Ascendancy, but I did try the food first hand on the SERENADE, and it WAS fine with me, alright? What I SAID was that my co-worker said their standards had slipped, she got this info from other veteran RCCL passengers, on her recent Med cruise.

As far as defending YOUR cruise line and not liking transatlantic voyages, remember, they have as many cruise lines and ships as Baskin-Robbins has flavors of ice cream (maybe more), there is something for everyone, so an RCCL cruise in 85 degree weather is not necessarily going to appeal to everyone. Ummm, I think that's WHY they have transatlantic cruises, cruises to Alaska and the Scandinavian countries...I could be wrong though....

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Ascendancy
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posted 06-08-2000 03:27 PM      Profile for Ascendancy   Email Ascendancy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rex, it seems you are never wrong!

Thanks for the Ice Cream analogy. How long did it take you to think that one up?


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Rex
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posted 06-08-2000 05:17 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ascendancy, I am not sure what you mean...I am never wrong?...why would you say that?....and why did you ask how long it took me to think that "ice cream" analogy up?That is an oldie but a goodie, my friend...I was merely pointing out, dear sir, the variety of cruises available to us all...

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