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Peter P
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posted 05-31-2000 02:03 PM      Profile for Peter P     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.cruise4.com/12000PassengerMegaship.html
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sympatico
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posted 05-31-2000 02:25 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's supposed to be a cruise ship? That really is the worst of the lot.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-31-2000 06:44 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes indeed. It's even worse than the Mistral!

(Are we sure that it's not a NASA's new mars landing craft?)


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Green
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posted 05-31-2000 10:51 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beyond belief!
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Scottylass
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posted 06-01-2000 02:48 AM      Profile for Scottylass   Email Scottylass   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lets hope no one can find 1.5 billion to build the thing....
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Cambodge
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posted 06-01-2000 03:32 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
H.L. Menken onces (was supposed to have) said: "No one ever went broke by underestimating the taste of the common man!"

Let us hope this "enterprise" will indeed be a first in showing Menken was wrong!


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Joe at PwC
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posted 06-01-2000 05:46 PM      Profile for Joe at PwC   Email Joe at PwC   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Let's hope this goes the way of the Titanic replica; not happening!
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Terry
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posted 06-01-2000 05:53 PM      Profile for Terry   Email Terry   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm

I agree about the McNeece monstrosity, but I must be the only person I know that actually likes the MISTRAL !!

Terry


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-01-2000 06:16 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Terry, I'm sure that Mistral is a very nice cruise ship and Festival probably offer good cruises..I just dislike her.

I saw of photo of the bow, taken from directly behind - it was not a pleasant sight!


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Peter P
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posted 06-02-2000 06:03 AM      Profile for Peter P     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
LOL Malcolm

I wont believe this will happen like Project America.

Or maybe...in space?


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Terry
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posted 06-03-2000 05:05 PM      Profile for Terry   Email Terry   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you think that's bad what about this from The Age evelopers float plan for $9b city-ship colossus

By DAVID O'REILLY
LONDON
Sunday 4 June 2000


During the past month, some of the world's richest people have begun depositing money in an interest-bearing account administered by a Florida law company.

When that bankroll reaches a critical mass in the next three months, American Norman Nixon will hit the "go" button to begin construction of the Freedom Ship.

In this ship's shadow, other great ocean-going vessels of the past, like the Titanic, are minnows. Even in an age of numbing scientific wonders and Hollywood computer-enhanced visual wizardry, this one - if it comes off - will take some beating.


Almost 1500 metres long and 300 metres wide, the ship will rise 25 stories above the waterline. It is basically a high-tech barge, comprising 600 huge flotation "cells", and containing 20,000 residential units, serviced by all the trappings of a modern small city. It can accommodate 110,000 residents and will have shopping malls, cinemas and theatres, power plants, a hospital, schools and a university. There will be an airport on its roof and a fleet of ferries docking in the stern to move residents and visitors to and from shore.

It is envisaged that, as it glides along at 10 knots, the largest moving object ever created will circumnavigate the globe every two years, anchoring in international waters 25 kilometres off, say Perth, Melbourne and Sydney.

Originally, Norman Nixon, a rich American engineer, dreamt of building a "new" Hong Kong on an island in the Bahamas. When talks with the politicians there broke down he came up with the idea of a high-tech "island" paradise that moved. After six years of design work and a worldwide search for a building site that eventually settled on Honduras, the selling began 18 months ago. Now, Nixon and his marketing offsider Roger Gooch say 15 per cent of the 20,000 residences, ranging in price from $A130,000 to $7 million, have been reserved. From May 1, the bookings had to be followed up with lodgment of deposits of up to $SA50,000.


Mr Gooch said the company expected all the units to be sold within a year.

Mr Gooch admits that with the company keen to get construction underway within three months, other sources of finance are being examined besides home sales. Ultimately, the project is expected to cost $9 billion.

Mr Gooch says that for the money a customer gets "the opportunity to live in a safe and secure alternative lifestyle".

"You get the chance to be on your own, go to work, run your own business, go to school, visit a different country of the world every week all from the luxury of your own home. It will have restaurants and an airport and the largest duty free shopping in the world and it will constantly stay in international waters so there will be no taxes. Where is there a vehicle anywhere in the world that allows you to do that?"

The ship will have high-tech "incinerator" toilets and a 2000-member security force. While Mr Gooch will not use the word "unsinkable", he says that because the hull is so long, so wide and so flat, even huge seas would barely cause a shudder.


Mr Gooch says the law on ship will be as applied in the country in which the vessel is flagged. The rest is up to the captain to sort out.


Two years ago, Mr Nixon, Gooch and others from Freedom Ship International Inc. came to Australia from their Florida base to investigate the possibility of building the vessel at Whyalla in South Australia. They opted for Honduras because it was close to the US, and threr were "extremely appreciable savings" on wage rates and working conditions.


Construction will involve 22,000 people and take three years. ---------------

LINKS
www.freedomship.com


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DAMBROSI
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posted 06-03-2000 10:58 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's vulgar to look at. They could"nt begin to pay me to sail on this so called ship. And if I did have the money, I would'nt give it to build such a monstrosity. I'd rather use that money to rebuild the S/S United States. What a waste this is. And just plain arrogant!!!!!
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Elizabeth
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posted 06-04-2000 07:44 AM      Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yuk!! It may be capable of floating, but it definately is not a ship!!!!
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Cambodge
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posted 06-04-2000 08:48 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a component of a recent Discovery Channel or similar program which dealt with big ships which showed this and similar planned-but-we-hope-will-never-be-built monstrosities.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-04-2000 09:01 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember reading about the proposed 'world city' project. That was another plan for a giant floating city, with thausands of appartments.

The designer said that it would not need lifeboats, because it was too big to sink! NOw where have I heard that statement before?


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posted 06-05-2000 09:22 AM      Profile for Ascendancy   Email Ascendancy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks interesting to me. You wouldn't see too many ports, but if the entertainment, dancing and dining is good, who cares about the ports. It's not a cruise ship, it's more like a floating platform. The two sister ships look very interesting, 130,000 gross tons, wow.


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