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Topic: Isnt she ugly

Peter P
First Class Passenger
Member # 374

posted 12-21-2000 04:15 PM

What a ugly ship this is.
http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=view_photo&ID_Community=Shipsofallkind&ID_Topic=2&ID_Message=132

She is now sailing somewhere else and other name with a bit different outfit. Quiz: Do you know where she is now and under what name?

Ps. AJL you have great collection of pictures. Don't answer to this AJL (would be too easy for you )

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cameron
First Class Passenger
Member # 966

posted 12-21-2000 04:30 PM

I know the name of that vessel but I'll let people try to "discover" it. As ugly as she is, she could turn out to be a cruise ship; heaven forbit.

Cameron

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nzmike
First Class Passenger
Member # 1308

posted 12-21-2000 06:06 PM

Hate to say it, but compared to some European ferries she isn't that bad! Witness some of the grotesque creations on the English channel that have suffered numerous "rebuilds"; they make Millenium look like a graceful ocean liner in comparison!! Presumably this vision of ugliness was created by someone using a slide rule with straight lines only...

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Paddy
First Class Passenger
Member # 357

posted 12-21-2000 06:23 PM

Since when did Lego produce passenger ships?

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cameron
First Class Passenger
Member # 966

posted 12-21-2000 07:38 PM

Good one Paddy

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Aussie1
First Class Passenger
Member # 25

posted 12-21-2000 09:05 PM

Was the Leeward of NCL, now with Star Cruises.

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Grant
First Class Passenger
Member # 1000

posted 12-21-2000 09:25 PM

Not the same ship as Leeward, but almost as ugly!!

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Aussie1
First Class Passenger
Member # 25

posted 12-22-2000 12:51 AM

Whoops, thought she was the ship that became the cruise vessel Sally Albatross. (Bits of which latter became Leeward.) She must be her sister, which remained a ferry in the Baltic, and I think is still there. Was she Viking Song?

Happy Christmas everybody.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 12-22-2000 02:38 AM

The Viking Line does have some impressive Ferries - this is NOT one of them!

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Peter P
First Class Passenger
Member # 374

posted 12-22-2000 03:57 AM

Hahaa Paddy

I think Aussie is right.

And I think Leward had very good outfit, a bit like yacht.

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AJL
First Class Passenger
Member # 956

posted 12-22-2000 04:38 AM

Aussie 1, you are right, she did "became" the Leeward. It was just that the only things they used for the Leeward (new Sally Albatross) was the hull + machinery.

By the way, her sister, The Viking Song is now the Regina Baltica of EstLine. Her route is Stockholm, Sweden - Tallinn, Estonia.

AJL

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Rex
First Class Passenger
Member # 1113

posted 12-22-2000 11:40 AM

Did she not used to be the former Soviet ferry ANNA KARENINA? She looks very similar to that ship, which I saw in Arnold Kludas' GREAT PASSENGER SHIPS circa 1991. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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cameron
First Class Passenger
Member # 966

posted 12-22-2000 01:24 PM

Wow, what a transformation from this ugly duckling to the Leeward. I agreed with Peter P. Leeward looks like a large elegant yatch rather than a cruise ship.

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AJL
First Class Passenger
Member # 956

posted 12-22-2000 02:00 PM

Rex, the former Anna Karenina, now Regina Baltica, is the sister of the burnt out Sally Albatross, former Viking Saga.

AJL

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Peter P
First Class Passenger
Member # 374

posted 12-22-2000 02:37 PM

Regina Baltica pic
http://home.swipnet.se/shipguide/pics/estline/reginabaltica.jpg

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Paddy
First Class Passenger
Member # 357

posted 12-22-2000 04:39 PM

As the late, great Victor Meldrew would say "Aaay don't belieeeeve it!". How could such an ugly ugly ugly box spawn what I personally think as one of the sexiest cruise ships ever (well, except in Star's rather cheap livery)??? It goes to show its never too late for a ship to grow into the beautiful swan just waiting to burst from her interior. Ooh Millennium...

Paddy.

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AJL
First Class Passenger
Member # 956

posted 12-23-2000 08:22 AM

Check this ship and especially her stern out! Never seen anything like it!
http://members.nbci.com/scandinavica/Stena_Normandica.html

AJL

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 12-23-2000 09:15 AM

AJL,Hmmm..they don't come any more 'boxey' than this, do they?

Mind you it is obviously a Ferry rather than a cruise ship. The paint job is pretty 'wild' too

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 12-23-2000 09:20 AM

Just to make viewing a little easier:

By the way, I spent a day in Tallinn in August. It is a very nice city. It has well and truely left communism behind. The fashion seem to be for all the local women to wear little black mini-skirts!

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Ryndam
First Class Passenger
Member # 1315

posted 12-23-2000 09:57 AM

Viking Saga has been built in 1984 and two years later she was renamed Sally Albatross. In 1988 she was converted to a cruise ship and her look improved a lot, with a nicer bow. In 1990 the upper part of the ship was completely destroyed by a fire during one of her annual wet-dock. In 1991 the lower part of the ship, which survived intact the fire, was used to build a new, larger Sally Albatross. Few years later, during a cruise between Tallin and Helsinki, she run aground in severe ice conditions and high winds; water begun flooding the engine room and an evacuation was started. No one was hurt but her engine room and all cabins and spaces up to her fifth deck were flooded. She was later refloated and taken to a dry -dock in Turku for repairs. Her owners, convinced that she was an unlucky ship, decided to sell the ship once repaired. She became later the Leeward and now she's sailing with Star Cruise. After the two accidents there isn't much Viking Saga on the Leeward.

Ryndam

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AJL
First Class Passenger
Member # 956

posted 12-23-2000 10:25 AM

Go to:
http://www.alfonshakans.fi

to see pics of the new Sally Albatross salvage operation, which Ryndam kindly told us about. First choose "Pictures" and then "Salvage" from the down left and there it is.

There might be some slight differences between these two ships, might there...?

AJL

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