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Ocean Liners
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posted 11-16-2003 03:46 AM

Here are photos from Chandis brochures

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Aussie1
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posted 11-16-2003 07:57 PM

Ocean Liners, sailed on Ellinis from Australia to England back in 1974. Becasue of turbine trouble a planned 4 week trip took 6 weeks. We stopped at New York on the way which was a treat. Because of her slow peed, 14 knots rather than 20 knots, she always had soot on her decks so you had to be very careful when sitting down on deckchairs and the like. Thanks for the pictures. I believe she received the turbines out of her sister Homeric, which was being broken up at the time. Latter many of Ellinis's parts ended up in Britannis.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 11-16-2003 10:26 PM

I read sha had turbine trouble on Apr 25, 1974 on Sakura Cruise.
So you might took on the Ellinis in May 1974 from Australia.

She had a turbine replaced by one from former sister Homeric(ex-Mariposa) at Rotterdam in June 1974.

I posted Ellinis 1974 European cruise Itineraries.
Sun Cruises '74

Here's a Seascape issued on Apr. 9, 1974

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Aussie1
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posted 11-17-2003 04:30 PM

Ocean Liners, you are right she damaged a turbine before her line voyage to Britain. We plodded along at 14 knots but Chandris were still telling people we were to meet in Britain that the ship would arrive on time? Without Homeric being able to donate engine parts Ellinis may well have ended her active days in 1974. She was a very solid ship and unlike many latter American built ships had teak on nearly all her outside decks.
Aussie

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claudio
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posted 11-19-2003 06:37 AM

one of my favouriites i remember going on board her in early 70,s when she was in melbourne correct me if i am wrong but i do remember that ellinis had really tasteless interiors, still a great ship i still have a chandris ashtray that must have accidently fallen in mey pocket

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sslewis
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posted 11-28-2003 06:13 AM

Amazing at how she differed from her near sister Britanis!
The later was more squarred off, especially at the bows.
Ellinis looked better to me, and she even had a passing "air " of ssFrance?
Anybody knows about her designer?
ssLewis, fascinated by Chandris

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Brian_O
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posted 11-28-2003 01:46 PM

The three ships of Matson's Mariposa class were true sister ships, not near sisters. They were all built from the same design by Bethlehem SB at their Quincy Massachusetts yard and the differences in appearance were very minor. They were larger and improved versions of Matson's Malolo which debuted in 1927.

The differences in the appearance of Ellinis and Britannis stem from later refits (by different companies) that saw the ships lengthened and fitted with new bows.

Mariposa was lengthened in 1954 in Italy after being bought by Home Lines and renamed Homeric.

Monterey (later renamed Matsonia and then Lurline) was lengthened at Newport News, Virginia while still owned by Matson. She became Britannis after being sold to Chandris in 1970.

Lurline was lengthened and her appearance changed in a 3-month refit at North Shields after her sale to Chandris in 1963. She became the Ellinis.

Of course the Malolo (later renamed Matsonia) eventually saw her way into the Chandris fleet as the Queen Frederica, a name she had originally been give by Home Lines after serving a few years as Atlantic.

Confusing, huh?

Brian

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Ocean Liners
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posted 11-28-2003 08:17 PM

Here are the Ellinis Sailing schedules for the years of 1977 - 1979.

12 nights Cruise to Cherbourg, Lisbon, Madeira, Las Palmas, Casablanca, Palma and Genoa
Depart Southampton Monday Jun. 27, 1977.

14 nights Cruises to Syracuse, Alexandria, Haifa, Kusadasi, Istanbul, Piraeus and Capri Depart Genoa Saturdays : (1977) Jul. 9, 23, Aug. 6,

7 nights Cruise to Gibraltar, Cadiz, Lisbon and Southampton
Depart Genoa Saturday Aug 20, 1977

One 45 days Orient Cruise and visited Japanese ports and also 8 South Pacific Cruises from Oct. 1, 1977 to Apr. 3, 1978

14 days cruises from Genoa to Syracuse, Alexnadria, Haifa, Kusadasi, Istanbul, Piraeus and Naples
Sailing Dates: (1978) Jul 1, 15, 29 Aug 12, 26, Sep 9, 23

12 days cruise from Genoa to Toulon, Palma, Catania, Malta, Heraklion, Izmir, Piraeus,
Dubrovnik and Venice
Sailing Dates : Oct. 7, 1978

14 days cruises from Genoa to Syracuse, Alexnadria, Haifa, Kusadasi, Istanbul,
Piraeus and Naples
Sailing Dates: (1979) May 12, 26, Jun.9, Jul. 28, Aug. 11, 25, Sep. 8, 22, Oct. 6,

Does someone have the Ellinis Sailing Scedules for the rest of the seasons?

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-28-2004 01:40 AM

Ellinis had 9 passenger's decks(Sun, Boat, Prommenade, Upper, Main, "A", "B", "C" and "D") insead of 6 decks(Sun, "A", "B", "C" and "D") of fomerly Lurline.
Ellinis was added extra deck above on the fomerly Lurline's Sun deck to add 22 cabins
Boat deck(ex Sun deck) was added 4 cabins and many more cabins under Upper deck(ex B deck),
However major alterlation was made to add one or two upper berth(s) in the most cabins.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-28-2004 02:07 AM

Regarding Ocean Liners' statement about Ellinis having 9 passenger decks verses 6 passenger decks on Lurline. Ellinis was the original Lurline from 1931 and sold to Chandris in 1963. When that sale took place, Matsonia (formerly Monterey of 1931 and renamed Matsonia in 1957 was a different ship than Matsonia/Malolo of 1927) was renamed Lurline as that was the more popular name of the two and the name that thousands of passengers were more familiar with. I have seen several photos of the original Matson trio of 1931-32, and also of Ellinis after her Chandris rebuild, I can only see the addition of a deckhouse above the bridge and forward of the first funnel. I am confused as to where the additional three decks were added??

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-28-2004 02:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I am confused as to where the additional three decks were added??

As I posted in previous post, Lurline's Sun deck was called Boat deck by Ellinis.
though Ellinis's "C" and "D" decks were formerly Lurline's crew's quaters.

Note: Many old ships converted their crew's decks into passenger's decks.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-28-2004 02:40 AM

Ocean Liners; So that is where Chandris put those extra 800 passengers that were added when she was converted from a 1st class cruise ship into tourist class liner. I always thought that they just made 2-berth cabins into 4-berth ones. Thanks for the info!

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-28-2004 03:03 AM

As from Lurline's Deck plans of 1956, Matson advertised to accommodate for 722 passengers [in about 352 cabins.]
from Ellinis's deck plans of 1972, Chandris advertised to accommodate for 1642 passengers in 520 cabins.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-28-2004 03:14 PM

What is also interesting is that with the near doubling of her passenger load, only two extra lifeboats were added. She seems to have had 16 boats as Lurline and 18 as Ellinis and the same goes for Britanis

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TCSsa
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posted 06-28-2004 04:41 PM

Hello!!
Ocean Liners,I have a brochure from 1980 and the ELLINIS did 14-day cruises from Genoa that year.
It is a great brochure,it also has the VICTORIA,ARIADNE,ARIANE,ROMANZA,AUSONIA and I think the AMERIKANIS. I guess it was the last year Chandris had a full fleet in the med or Europe. I think the BRITANIS mostly cruised from San Juan to the Caribbean until she was put under Fantasy Cruises in the mid 80's and sailed from New York and also Miami. I think in 1981 Chandris chartered/or bought the GALILEO for the 14-day cruises from Genoa.
TCS
Post some more pics from those great brochures you have and also deck plans!!! I love deck plans!

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-28-2004 09:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TCSsa:

I think the AMERIKANIS.

I believe that Amerikanis did sail 7 or 14 days cruises out of Amsterdam.

quote:
Originally posted by TCSsa:

I think the BRITANIS mostly cruised from San Juan to the Caribbean until she was put under Fantasy Cruises in the mid 80's

In the winter of 1980/1, She planned to sail Two Itineraries out of San Juan.

quote:
Originally posted by TCSsa:

I love deck plans!

I'm glad to swap my Deck Plans or brochuers if you sent me one of ships of 1950s
or I recommend to purchase Ford's Deck Plan Gude,
See this topic Fords Deck Plan Guides

P.S. Am I wrong are you Tom Stephenson?

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TCSsa
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posted 06-29-2004 01:00 PM

Thats me!!!
I need to look for that brochure of the 1980 Summer season for Chandris Europe/Med Cruises.
I liked Costa and Chandris,they always had lots of ships and cruises on older more interesting ships.
Also Epirotiki had some very interesting ships and nice brochures. I especially liked the JASON and the JUPITER and ATLAS. You never knew which ships would be used and which ones would be chartered to other companies.
TCS

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-29-2004 10:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TCSsa:
I especially liked the JASON and the JUPITER and ATLAS. You never knew which ships would be used and which ones would be chartered to other companies.
TCS

Epirotiki Lines advertised their ship's charterer in brochures. I have brochures for Atlas of Touristik Union International too.

I'm interesting in Greek Line's Olympia(or Caribe 1), Queen Anna Maria or Empress of Britain, Arkadia, Lakonia and Typaldos Line's Acropolis, Athenai, Atlantica. If you have these brochures, I'd like to swap of scans.

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TCSsa
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posted 06-30-2004 12:28 AM

Hi!!
I dont have any brochures of those Greek ships.
Do you have any of the REGINA MARIS or the NORTHERN STAR of Shaw-Savill?
Keep posting,I went over several of your albums you have posted on this site tonight and I have alot of those brochures.
I used to love to get the RVL atlas every year!
TCS

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Ocean Liners
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posted 06-30-2004 12:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by TCSsa:

Do you have any of the REGINA MARIS or the NORTHERN STAR of Shaw-Savill?
TCS

I have Regina Maris' brochure but mainly advertised her Itineraries with destination's Photos.
I also have Shaw-Savill's brochures but Itineraries only.
What are you looking for?
You may find deck plans in Ford's deck plan guide(earlier edition only).
If you wanted to know these ships, It's better to post new topic.

quote:
Originally posted by TCSsa:

I went over several of your albums you have posted on this site tonight and I have alot of those brochures.
TCS

Please shere with us, if you have another photos or brochures!!

quote:
Originally posted by TCSsa:
I used to love to get the RVL atlas every year!
TCS

I have collected RVL atlas since 1974
Do you have RVL atlas of 1972/3?

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Ocean Liners
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posted 07-12-2005 12:29 AM

Here are the prices from Chandris Bar List.

Standard whisky A$ 0.18
Premium Whisky A$ 0.22
English Draught A$ 0.13(1/2 pt.)
Australian Sherry A$ 0.15
Dry Martini A$ 0.33

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Maasdam
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posted 07-12-2005 01:04 AM

Here two pictures off the Homeric she is at the scrapyard. She was laying next to the Nieuw Amsterdam. Wich on these two pictures is fore more thene 60% scrapped.

It explain wy it took so long before she was scrapped. Infact the Nieuw Amsterdam arrived much later, she even collided with the Homeric.
The Homeric turbines where removed to be fitted in the Ellinis.

Scrapping the Nieuw Amsterdam.

Greetings Ben.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 07-12-2005 01:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Aussie1:
sailed on Ellinis from Australia to England back in 1974. Becasue of turbine trouble a planned 4 week trip took 6 weeks. We stopped at New York on the way which was a treat. Because of her slow peed, 14 knots rather than 20 knots, she always had soot on her decks so you had to be very careful when sitting down on deckchairs and the like.

Ellinis had turbine trouble on Apr 25, 1974 on Sakura Cruise.
She was originally scheduled to cruise from Southampton on June 13th.

quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
It explain wy it took so long before she was scrapped. Infact the Nieuw Amsterdam arrived much later, she even collided with the Homeric.
The Homeric turbines where removed to be fitted in the Ellinis.
Greetings Ben.

She arrived at Rotterdam on June 25 1974 and had a turbine replaced by one from former sister Homeric(ex-Mariposa).

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NAL
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posted 07-12-2005 09:48 PM

Ben,
Those pictures of Nieuw Amsterdam being
scrapped are painful to look at. She was my
first ship.
I sailed on Ellinis in 1973 on a Bahamas cruise
out of Baltimore. Her interiors were not much
by that time, but she was a happy ship and we
had a lot of fun a/b. There were many Aussies
and Brits working in the entertainment dept.
They were great fun.

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barryrate
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posted 08-24-2005 07:22 AM

I left auckland to come back to the uk on the ellinis in june 1974. As a passengerI took part in the entertainment on board. the entertainments manager was an ice skater before he took up the post. Near the equator we lost an australian lad and girl overboard. The girl was on her way over to the uk with her sister to train to be a teacher. The atmosphere on the boat changed and was never the same during that trip. I recall a girl who served coffee from a small opening in one of the lounges surrounded by cockroaches. The engine had broken and it took longer to get back to the uk.

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