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Waynaro
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posted 12-10-2003 10:47 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
MaritimeMatters has put together a list of ships that has arrived at Alang...

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December 7: Hans Hoffman reports the following information to Maritime Matters:

November 28: ASSEDO arrives at Alang. The former 1968-built SHOTA RUSTAVELI, fourth of the five IVAN FRANKO sisters built for the Soviet Union by the Mathias Thesen shipyard at Wismar had been the subject of conflicting reports in recent days. She will definitely not be going to the far east for use as a gambling ship as she was destored at Iliychevsk (November 3), passed through the Suez Canal (November 18) and beached ten days later.

November 30: S OCEAN (ex APHRODITE, STELLA OCEANIS) arrives at Alang. She departed Eleusis on 11 November and passed through Suez on 15 November.

December 4: *APOLLO (ex EMPRESS OF CANADA, MARDI GRAS, STAR OF TEXAS, LUCKY STAR, HOMERIC, OLYMPIC 2004, APOLLON) arrives in tandem with NEW ORLEANS (ex ARGENTINA, VEENDAM, BRASIL, MONARCH STAR, VEENDAM, BERMUDA STAR, ENCHANTED ISLE). APOLLO departed Eleusis on 12 November and passed through Suez on 21 November. NEW ORLEANS departed Violet, Louisiana on 25 October and passed through Suez on 17 November.

Currently being broken up at Alang: *BIG BOAT (ex TRANSVAAL CASTLE, SA VAAL, FESTIVALE, ISLANDBREEZE, THE BIG RED BOAT III), VEESHAM (ex TRELLEBORG, NISSOS KYPROS, etc.), SAGAR (ex FERDINAND DE LESSEPS, DELPHI, LAPALMA, etc.), ROGALIN (ex AALOTAR), and EXPRESS HERMES (ex PRINSES ASTRID).

Currently enroute to Alang: *SEAWIND CROWN (ex INFANTE DOM HENRIQUE, VASCO DA GAMA) and S SOLAR (ex CAMBODGE, STELLA V, STELLA SOLARIS). S SOLAR passed through Suez on 23 November.

Currently in preparation for delivery to Alang breakers: *RED BOAT (ex EUGENIO C, EUGENIO COSTA, EDINBURGH CASTLE, THE BIG RED BOAT II) which is at Freeport, Bahamas.

Currently at Bangladesh awaiting demolition or possible resale: SS OCEANBREEZE (ex SOUTHERN CROSS, CALYPSO, AZURE SEAS)


I have never seen this many ships "seeing" each other for the last time...

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Amerikanis
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posted 12-11-2003 11:14 AM      Profile for Amerikanis   Email Amerikanis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What an Shit Situation...

...and the next?

Albatros?

Norway?

It is sad!


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Rex
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posted 12-11-2003 04:51 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They're OLD. It's time for them to be put to pasture...
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sslewis
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posted 12-17-2003 10:11 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, Alang torches are busy, and Indian workers will have a sparky Christmas!
ssLewis

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posted 12-17-2003 11:12 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A while back there was a discussion of what happened to "builders plate" from ships that were scrapped. Well I didn't exactly find builders plates listed on their web site, but these guys might have them. Click on Navigation Equipments if you are interested in picking up a Life Jacket or Ring Buoy.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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posted 12-17-2003 04:14 PM      Profile for Westerdam   Email Westerdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting websites Joe. In the one picture you can see the old Cunard liner Saxonia.
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Waynaro
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posted 12-27-2003 12:33 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From MaritimeMatters:
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Partial Alang Update
December 26: A bit of news about some of the passenger ships at Alang. S SOLAR has already had a number of local visitors on board inspecting her wares. A hole has been cut into her port focsle bulwarks where a jacob's ladder provides vertiginous access. The accommodation and public rooms still seem to have most of their furnishings and artwork intact. Aside from some rust around the lido pool, this ship looks in excellent cosmetic condition.

APOLLON is beached, but quite far out. No visitors have been allowed on board as of yet, but inspections are due to take place this weekend.

NEW ORLEANS (ENCHANTED ISLE) has already had her nose sheared off. Her fittings are being claimed by local tradespeople. She is beached on the starboard side of ASSEDO, which is beached rather far out. APOLLO is on the port side of ASSEDO, also far out from shore.



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posted 12-27-2003 09:01 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i know it would be somewhat depessing.....but they should install a web cam at alang.....just so we can say our last good-bye's......i just wish i had taken that cruise in the caribbean aboard the "stella solaris" when i had the chance.....jeff
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sslewis
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posted 12-29-2003 12:29 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wonder if the demolition party has a Santa tree and a party onboard?
The mood must be high for them, with plenty of overtime and perhaps holds full of western goodies?
ssLewis

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posted 12-31-2003 06:51 AM      Profile for Karsten   Author's Homepage   Email Karsten   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The next one....

SEAWIND CROWN is reported to be en route from Barcelona to Asia under the name BARCELONA.


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sslewis
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posted 12-31-2003 10:34 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has she left yet?
I can't see her on any webcams.
What ship with a webcam is in Barcelona?
BTW, Genoa-exAlbatros webcam has been switched off.
ssLewis

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linerguy
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posted 12-31-2003 11:27 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few things:

I have searched and searched and cannot find ANY photos of these ships being dismantled,.....does anyone have a link they can offer up?

Also, and this may have been posted here already but, here is a link to a WONDERFUL site all about Canberra:

http://www.sscanberra.com/

There are movies, tons of photos (including her scrapping) and even games to play.

Very cool indeed.

Russ


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Waynaro
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posted 01-01-2004 02:21 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From Maritime Matters:
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Remnants of RED
December 31: Images taken today of BIG BOAT (ex TRANSVAAL CASTLE, SA VAAL, FESTIVALE, ISLANDBREEZE, THE BIG RED BOAT III) at Alang show a long sliver of her midships keel, (used to winch the remains ashore) attached to a terraced outpost of her remaining aft third superstructure. The outer plating has been removed, exposing the remains to the elements. The breaking process has been long and slow since the ship's arrival in July.


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posted 01-02-2004 01:15 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tyical answer from a ship refusing to die!
Gadani beach now keeps to freighters!
The whistles of Michelangelo and Canberra can still be heard on stormy nights!
Kaohsiung is now a park and Taiwanese envy China for keeping a few liners!
ssLewis

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posted 01-03-2004 10:38 AM      Profile for Karsten   Author's Homepage   Email Karsten   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To sslewis:

SEAWIND CROWN left Barcelona 28.12.03

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[ 01-03-2004: Message edited by: Karsten ]


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posted 01-03-2004 11:19 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So where is she? Not gone through Suez..
Pam

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posted 01-03-2004 08:27 PM      Profile for gpcruisedude   Email gpcruisedude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's too bad Seawind Crown is going to the Breakers, as she was a beautiful ship and did well until Premier got ahold of her! She would have been an ideal candidate to put back into Cruise Service, as she was totally rebuilt back in late 80's for Cruise Service and I think she would have done well if Pullmantur could have bought her! Before Premier she was very successfull in The Caribbean with her own Niche market.
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sslewis
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posted 01-03-2004 08:54 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a waist indeed for Portugal's Infante Dom Enrique.
I wish she was left in her enclosed berth in a backwater.
She was not well received by the germans as Vasco de Gamma, so no way she could have replaced Albatros.
I shall play Ravel's Pavane pour une Infante defunte(used for the rms Queen Elizabeth video!).
ssLewis, loosing steam

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Karsten
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posted 01-04-2004 08:30 AM      Profile for Karsten   Author's Homepage   Email Karsten   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Portic.net (see my link above) and Maritimematters say that the SEAWIND CROWN left Barcelona. Maritimematters says that she now has the name BARCELONA and is registered in Batumi.

Today I checked again the Suez Canal Transits, but no BARCELONA found. Only a passanger ship named IGOR FARKHUTDINOV ... no idea waht a ship this could be. Is it the SEAWIND CRWON with new name? Batumi is former USSR and the name could be ok ... but Batumi is Georgia and not Russia, isn't it?


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PamM
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posted 01-04-2004 08:41 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
See here for a photo showing her named Barcelona & registered in Batumi [Yes, Georgia, not Russia].
Pam

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Karsten
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posted 01-11-2004 08:51 AM      Profile for Karsten   Author's Homepage   Email Karsten   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had hope that SEAWIND CROWN will not go to the breakers... but now she has passed the Suez Canal on 08.01.04.
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posted 01-21-2004 01:04 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Any news of Barcelona-Seawind Crown-Vasco de Gamma nee Infante Dom Enrique beached yet?
Hope she diverts to Mozambique instead and serve as a hotel by a beach resort!
Anyone heard of Lydia in Port Balcares, France near the Spanish border(Mediterranean).
She should serve as an example for older ships to be preserved cheaply..
ssLewis

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posted 01-26-2004 03:02 PM      Profile for Karsten   Author's Homepage   Email Karsten   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

Source: http://www.schiffsphoto.de/JPG/Alang_Beach.jpg


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posted 01-26-2004 03:39 PM      Profile for steeplechase   Author's Homepage   Email steeplechase   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is a great picture, sad but great must have been taken a while ago as they are all in one piece any more available at that web site? close ups?
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posted 01-26-2004 04:18 PM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here are two more pics. The first is very similar to Karsten's but a bit bigger, and a bit closer. The other shows the Big Red Boat 3


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