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Here are photos of the President Cleveland and The President Wilson

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California Room

The menu cover from the President Cleveland

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Nice pix! My parents visited me in 1955, crossing on the Cleveland. In those days, we were able to have lunch aboard ship in Yokohama before they debarked. It was a great ship, and they enjoyed their passage very much.

Later both ships often conicided with our visits to Hong Kong when we were there on the MM ships. Their midnight sailings from Hong Kong were really an event. Many whistles and late passengers sprinting for the docks, or trying to catch up in "walla-walla" water taxis!


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And late crewmembers sprinting also!!

Thanks Ocean Liners.

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In the early '70s, Star Ferry operated from 6:00AM until 2:00AM. After hours, Wallah Wallah was only method of public transportation to cross harbour.
However, the opening of the Cross Harbour Tunnel means that wallah wallahs are decreasing in popularity.

Jerry, Do you remember the name of "Motomachi" near China Town?

New Subway systeam will operate between Motomachi/China Town and Yokohama Station in next February.

The new subway systeam stops at Nippon-Odori(Prefectural office/Osambashi)Station, From this station, It takes only few minutes to Osambashi(South Pier) and New Yokohama International Passenger Terminal was built there in last year

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Yes, Ocean Liners, I surely do remember Motomachi and China Town. Yokohama was a great port for walking the Motomachi, shopping in all the small stores and good food. I particularly remember my favorite, the small Yakitori stalls, and enjoying yakitori and Kirin. Great combination.

I'd like to see the new passenger ship terminal as I remember the old one was nice for it's time. Heck, I'd even like to see an APL Eagle funnel at the dock again as well! Long gone days however, and I am sure that I would get lost in Yokohama today the minute I left the dock!

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Hi Jerry

Here's the link for the New Terminal's photos here

I'm always dreaming for seeing the APL's cruise ship with the Eagle Funnel and to sail in the Pacific Waters again.


For those who are not familiar with "Yakitori" and "Kirin"

A Japanese term meaning "grilled" (yaki ) "fowl" (tori ), usually referring to small pieces of chicken that are skewered and grilled with salt or soy sause.

Kirin is No.1 beer in Japan. Cheers!!

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Jerry- to one who was in Yokohame more recently than I. And, Ocean Liners- to one who is presently on site.

Fill me in on the Yokohama Port Configuration. What has happened to the old ship-terminal pier?

At the time of my last seaborne departure from Japan in 1969 on "Cambodge", the pier had not changed much from 1946. It still was large inelgant structure with a warehouse-like passemger terminal in the center but with much outside room, which was a prerequisite for large, ribbon throwing crowds and the inevitable recording of "Auld Lang Syne(sp?). Hey it was fun. Even the troopships got the ribbon treatment, and upon arrival, there was room for the First Cav Band, with a great rendition of Glenn Miller's "St. Louis Blues March!"

It was also the site of my arrival in Dai Nippon in 1946 aboard the USNS "General Heintzleman" no band no ribbons; my departure on USAT "Monterey" (yes the real and original ship--yay Matson! ---and we did have a band and ribbons); meeting MM's "La Marseillais" to pick up the Citroen w/righthand drive I had ordered from Hong Kong; site of my home-leave departure in 1953 aboard the USNS "General M. M. Patrick"(B&R); and of my return from home leave, aboard the USNS "General Gaffey" (a P-2 twin of the Presidents, sorta); my welcome of the "Caronia" on her first world cruise in 1954 (I thinkl); my 11955 welcome of my visiting parents aboard the "Cleveland;" and numerous visits on MM's Laos, Vietnam and Cambodge (62-69! All departures with takusan ribbons!

Forgive the long-winded listing, but that old pier was special to me! No I don't remember its number. But there is a lot of nostalgia there. I don't think I will see the new "terminal" at my current age and financial status!

And when my scanner is up to speed, I will post a photo of the Green Goddess on her arrival there, while I sit in my BRG MD-TD!

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quote:
Originally posted by Cambodge:

Fill me in on the Yokohama Port Configuration. What has happened to the old ship-terminal pier?

At the time of my last seaborne departure from Japan in 1969 on "Cambodge", the pier had not changed much from 1946. It still was large inelgant structure with a warehouse-like passemger terminal in the center but with much outside room,



Ocean Liners or Cruise Ships has been moored at Osambashi(South Pier) since 1894.
the same Pier as you mentiond above.
The former terminal building below was consctucted Prior to Tokyo Olympic Games in 1964,
You may see The terminal entrance is shown between Cathay(or Chitral) and George Anson(or Francis Drake) in the photo below

New Terminal Reconstruction begun for Completely removed former Terminal Building, then Half side of foundation works begun while using the other side of berths

The Asuka was moored at new construction berth(but half side only)at the South pier in 1991.

During the Reconstruction works(1988-2002), Passenger Terminal temporary moved to the New Building which was constructed at the foot of the pier.

Here's the link for the Osambashi(South pier)
here

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Hi All,

If I remember correctly, the passenger terminal was called South Pier. My first visit there was on the PRESIDENT CLEVELAND in January 1962 and it was my first foreign port as a crewmember. I recall that there were some small shops in the terminal, wonderful viewing spaces on the pier sides with the passenger facilities on the upper deck and the baggage and freight on the ground floor. Practically across the street was the Silk Hotel with a terrific museum all about the silk worm, silk trade and world wide implications. Upstairs was a nice resturant and bar.

My real first visit to Japan however, was on the USNS JAMES O'HARA in 1957 as a member of the U.S. Army. We docked at North Pier, which was where the military troop transports arrived and departed. It was a pretty basic pier with warehouses and designed mostly for freight.

Interestingly, (there I go again ) I returned after my tour of duty in Japan on the USNS GENERAL GAFFEY as well. We sailed from North Pier to San Francisco in 1959.

As I remember also, very close to the South Pier was the HIKAWA MARU, venerable old passenger ship permanently moored and used as a museum, hostel and other uses.

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quote:
Originally posted by nevadaflip:

If I remember correctly, the passenger terminal was called South Pier.

Practically across the street was the Silk Hotel with a terrific museum all about the silk worm, silk trade and world wide implications. Upstairs was a nice resturant and bar.

As I remember also, very close to the South Pier was the HIKAWA MARU, venerable old passenger ship permanently moored and used as a museum, hostel and other uses.

Jerry


Yes, South Pier (Japanese named Osambashi)

You may visit Silk Museum but hotel was closed,

the HIKAWA MARU is one of tourist attraction for Japanese and any nationalities.
the HIKAWA MARU is now museum and snack.
You may visit Suite room, First Class Smoking room and also engine room. etc.


"Asuka" and "HIKAWA MARU" were just captured by Webcam and The red brick warehouse are now houses for shops and restaurants

Here's the link for the
Intercontinental The Grand Yokohama webcam

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Ocean Liners,

What a great picture of South Pier. This must have been taken in 1964/65. Beside the Chitral and the Francis Drake and the lovely Canberra I cannot come up with the name of the beautiful liner across the pier from it.

When I was on the SS PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT we took onboard from the CHITRAL Mr. Noel Coward, for the transpacific journey to San Francisco. He was truly an interesting gentleman and I must confess, not too impressed with our all American ship and crew.

I had many wonderful memories of the staff of the FRANCIS DRAKE. This was a small and old and traditional combination ship registered in Scotland, with a Scottish and Australian crew sailing cruises from Australian throughout the Orient. We seemed to be in port together often and we visited back and forth. I even traveled to Melbourne in 1965 to participate in the wedding party of one of the engineers on board that ship.

I remember also (again thinking of my stomach) that there was the Scandinavian Restaurant and also later on was a restaurant called the Windjammer. Along with the Japanese and Chinese food, Yokohama was truly a great port to visit.

Kobe was great too. I remember that on the 12 passenger freighters I always went to the Sogo Department Store basement food department and got the boiled octopus (tako?) and wasabe and served it to our passengers with happy hour the next day. I used to tell them, if they were liking it too much, that it was raw so I got more left over for myself!!

Good times, good memories.

Jerry


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quote:
Originally posted by nevadaflip:

Beside the Chitral and the Francis Drake and the lovely Canberra I cannot come up with the name of the beautiful liner across the pier from it.


Hi jerry
Opposite side of Canberra is the Sagafjord of NAL.

quote:

there was the Scandinavian Restaurant

Restaurant Scandia is still in the same building opposite of Silk Center and across from former British Counsulate(Now Yokohama Archive of History)


quote:

Kobe was great too. I remember that on the 12 passenger freighters I always went to the Sogo Department Store basement food department and got the boiled octopus (tako?) and wasabe and served it to our passengers with happy hour the next day. I used to tell them, if they were liking it too much, that it was raw so I got more left over for myself!!

Now, Tako(Octopus) -Yaki(bake) is famous light snack in Japan, especially in Osaka.

If you want to see the site which explains about Takoyaki, Please visit for the link
here

The pacific venus is also berthing at south pier until 3AM of Dec 26(EST)

Please visit the link for
the Yokohama Bay bridge webcam

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quote:

During the Reconstruction works(1988-2002), Passenger Terminal temporary moved to the New Building which was constructed at the foot of the pier.


Terminal buiding(Temporary) in the center and Marine Tower(with World's tallest Lighthouse on the top) in the right

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You both have answered my questions. Particularly when I looked at the airphoto and noted that South Pier was Osambashi(South Pier). The old termial building is, of course, long gone.

Nevadaflip, has however, introduced an element of doubt, since several of my arrivals and departures were by Military Transport Ships. North Pier perchance? Now I am doubting my evaporating memories!

I know all of my MM ships left from the South Pier, as did "Caronia."

With MM in the '60s, we sailed from either Saigon or Bangkok (via HKG for first fittings) to Osaka. From there we took a taxi to Kyoto,(driver pulled right up to the end of the gangway, fare negotiated, followed by fuel loadup of LPG -not much room in the trunk for our baggage) and a pleasant ride to Kyoto. Two nights of shopping and shrines in Kyoto followed, then JNR (no shinkansen then) to Tokyo. Then, two overnights in Tokyo with shopping and such, then taxi to Yokohama.

There at South Pier was our lovely white MM ship and our friendly cabin! Remember MM were passenger and cargo ships. As such they worked cargo in Osaka then sailed around the East Coast of Honshu to Yokohama and worked cargo there before boarding passengers. This was an accurately scheduled scenario and gave the passengers about five days in Japan.
Memories!

Oh, and this dates me for sure.

"Nippon" beer was the beverage of choice in the 1950s. It later became "Sapporo" but retained the Red Star, which in the Cold War era, appeared to some of my reactionary colleagues as somewhat subversive. Was not "Kirin" a later brand? And I would kill to get some good hot smoky Yakitori!

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APL revised sailing schedule in 1964, Six times a year --three in Spring and three in Fall.
President Liners made 44-day cruise in stead of regular 39-day round tip voyage.
Those sailings called at the additional ports of Keelung, Nagasaki and *Kobe.
(*APL Omited kobe on regular 39-day round trip voyage in 1964)
These voyages featured a daylight crossing of the beautifull Inland Sea of Japan.


Sapporo and Kirin has both long history, Please refer for their site.
Sapporo Breweries and Kirin Breweries

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Ocean Liners:

Thank you for clearing up Sapporo Beer. I always prefered Sapporo to Kirin.

A personal question, if I may.

Are you Japanese or foreign resident?

Just wondering.


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Cambodge,

We Japanese always wlcomes to you and all cruise talkers to visit Japan.

When cruise ships arrive to Japanese port(s), you are cordiary welcomes by Marching band and/or Japanese young ladies.


The photo was taken on Dec.22, 1987

P.S. Please feel free to contact me by private message.

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It was taken on either March 15 or 16, 1966
Because berth were occupied as same as photo and list below

Berth A : Chitral arrived 9AM Mar. 15, Departed 9PM Mar. 16.
Berth B/C : Canberra arrived Noon Mar. 15, Departed 2PM Mar. 17(Maiden call)
Berth D : Sagafjord arrived 9AM Mar. 14, Departed 6PM Mar. 16(First Visit to Yokohama on her Maiden World Cruise)
Berth F : George Anson arrived 0830am Mar. 15 Departed 3PM Mar. 18.

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I really like that picture. And, isn't that Mt Fuji in the upper right hand corner?

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No, it's Mr. Ranier -- Really lonng-focus telephoto!
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Here's the link for webcam towards Mt. ...................
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I see your view of Mt Fuji is from a site in Shizuoka. Very near there is a port we called in a couple of times and two things left a lasting impression on me. It is Shimizu, and the view of Mt Fuji is spectacular for one, and the other was the hillsides of strawberry plants, terraced and just bursting with those great Japanese strawberries!

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Port of Shimizu is export city especally for Mandarin Orange, Japanese green tea and very
sweet Strawberries,etc since in the early 1900s.

Port of Shimizu welcomed P&O's Cathay and Chitral as a regular port of call in 1960s and APL's
cargo liners.

In February of 1990, QE2 visited to this port as a chater cruise ship.
In recent years, Crystal cruises programs shimizu as a port of call in its itinerary.

APL's Cargo Adventure Cruises Route map in '70s

Here's another link for viewing to the following shot from Port of Shimizu

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Shimizu has come a long way as a port from the town I remember in the 1950s. Is not Shizuoka the major city of the region?

But I cannot forget those strawberry terraces. As I recall, the mountains come right down to the sea in that region. Therefore, the terraces were built on hills which had maximum solar exposure to the south. I also recall limestone 'reflectors" to emphasize the sun.

Ocean Liners, are these the strawberies which sell for US$10.00 and up apiece in Sembikiya?

And on both the old Tokkaido Line and the Shinkansen, there are some great views of Fuji-san from the train as it winds around the headlands in the Shimizu region, as I recall.

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Shizuoka prefecure has own prefectural office in Shizuoka and it takes about 10 minutes by train from Shizuoka St. to Shimizu St. on Tokaido Line.
Shizuoka and Shimizu were consolidated in Last April.

There is a shrine called Toshougu "same name as Famous shrine in Nikko" on Mt. Kuno(kunosan) and connects Nippon-daira(plain) by Ropeway.(5 minutes)
There are many Strawberry Farms near there and they cultivate in a vinyl house and an temperature controlled by warmer.

In winter, they are welcomes for visitors and can enjoy to pick up strawberries and can eat with condensed milk in farms.
Admission Fee(US$10~20) are veries depending on Farms and the Months.

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