Those are the ships; not sure about the rest of your questions...

Russ

[ 02-03-2004: Message edited by: linerguy ]

On second thought, that is SAGAFJORD, not VISTAFJORD... I looked too quickly the first time around, and as a small blur on a fuzzy photo, the outline of SAGAFJORD with her extra deck added above the bridge is curiously like that of VISTAFJORD before any modifications. But the kingposts, private balconies, and a few other things give her identity away.

So this means it has to be during 1981, the only year that the SAGAFJORD, with extra deck, and DORIC would have both been in service.

Place looks like Hamilton, Bermuda. As to why they're there... To visit the port ? (Bad answer, I know!) Seriously, it must have been some special occasion that all of these ships (including BOTH HAL sisters) were there?

Also interesting is that the descendants of all of these ships' owners, are part of Carnival nowadays, even though two of them are technically defunct!

[ 02-03-2004: Message edited by: cruiseny ]

2) in the fall of 1970s

In 1973?

Due to Full berth at Hamilton

[ 02-03-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

Those were the good old days...:-)

[ 02-03-2004: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]

Defintely Sagafjord....it has all port holes in the lowest deck of its superstructure whereas Vistafjord had a long string of full sized windows near midships.

Pic take between 1978 and 1981, after Volendam and Veendam returned to HAL fleet from Monarch Cruises and before Doric made her last voyage for Home Lines. Sagafjord's extra deck was added in Germany in Oct-Dec 1980 leaving 1981 as the only possibility. So I definitely agree with Cruisny on that.

While it is possible that this pic was taken at a smaller Caribbean island in the first 3.5 months of 1981, the portion of 1981 during which 3 of the 4 ships (Doric and the HAL pair) were on the New York- Bermuda run was twice as long. Since there were no events such as the 1976 "Tall Ships" parade at New York in 1981, it is highly unlikely that these 4 would have been anchored in the lower reaches of New York harbour that year (besides the scenery is wrong). So I'd say Bermuda.

Why are they all anchored? For some reason pier space was not available.

Brian

[ 02-03-2004: Message edited by: Brian_O ]

LOL! I took so long researching, composing and rewording my post that the answer got posted while I was typing.

[ 02-03-2004: Message edited by: Brian_O ]

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Originally posted by cruiseny:
VEENDAM/VOLENDAM (not sure which is which), VISTAFJORD, and DORIC.

On second thought, that is SAGAFJORD, not VISTAFJORD... I looked too quickly the first time around, and as a small blur on a fuzzy photo, the outline of SAGAFJORD with her extra deck added above the bridge is curiously like that of VISTAFJORD before any modifications. But the kingposts, private balconies, and a few other things give her identity away.

So this means it has to be during 1981, the only year that the SAGAFJORD, with extra deck, and DORIC would have both been in service.

Place looks like Hamilton, Bermuda. As to why they're there... To visit the port ? (Bad answer, I know!) Seriously, it must have been some special occasion that all of these ships (including BOTH HAL sisters) were there?

Also interesting is that the descendants of all of these ships' owners, are part of Carnival nowadays, even though two of them are technically defunct!

[ 02-03-2004: Message edited by: cruiseny ]

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Do you remeber the date of photo taken?

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Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

You'd better to edit to the same answer as you posted at 12:38PM

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If I saw all his answer before 1PM, i didn't answer as I posted at 1:08PM. and also I checked the brochures at First.

[ 02-04-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

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Originally posted by Brian_O:
Huh? That's what he did do.

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Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

Don't add the answers on to the previous post at later.

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Why not? He made no attempt whatsoever to hide his original error. On the contrary, he acknowledged it in the very first line of his amendment and the added extra information to explain how he arrived at his corrected and additional answers.

While I do not know the exact timing of his amended version, I DO know for a fact that it was posted before Thad posted the "correct" answers. While he did not have the answer to "why?", noone else did either. Apart from that, he was the FIRST to answer ALL of the other parts of the question correctly. Noone else even came close on "when?".

Anyone who implies that he corrected his post after the correct answers had been posted is WRONG and is, imho, guilty of "sour grapes".

Any Posters allowed to edit(or add/or delete) one's post on the board now.
but for Trivia I believe We Are allowed to edit until Next Post.

As for cruiseny post(Posted at 12:38PM), he allowed to edit until My Post(Posted 12:42PM)

If you don't allow above, Any Cruise Talkers may refer to another answer and add until the Answer got posted.

Do you allow to edit Until The Correct Answer got posted!!!!!??????

[ 02-04-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]

Time for a new trivia question:

Can you name the five ships in the following photograph and the month and year the picture was taken? Bonus points if you can name the photographer.

Larger Version

Joe at TravelPage.com

[ 02-04-2004: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]

SS Statendam IV
SS Rotterdam V
SS Oceanic
SS Michelangelo (or her sister ship?)
SS Doric

I have no idea who the photographer is. The couple of books I have this pic in only credit the Port Authorities of NY/NJ.