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linerguy
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posted 02-09-2004 03:59 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today, Feb. 9th, is a sad day in history. It's the 62nd anniversary of the burning of NORMANDIE at pier 88 in New York.

Had the moronic, fat-cat Admiral at the scene allowed designer Vladimir Yourkevitch on board and open her sea valves, she would have settled upright. Instead, he was brushed aside and NORMANDIE was lost forever....

Chaulk up a major blunder on the part of the Navy.

I can only imagine how things would have been different had she survived.

Russ


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steeplechase
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posted 02-12-2004 07:40 AM      Profile for steeplechase   Author's Homepage   Email steeplechase   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can imagine things could have been different too, imagine that the Normandie had sailed with 20,000 soldiers and was torpedoed off the maine coast and JFK's father was aboard and he was never born and then we got some hair brained president during the Cuba conflict and he dropped a bomb on the Island and Russians sent some our way, and it ended in a nuclear war that ended all of civilzation on earth and the world stopped spinning and the solar system colapsed? Luckly the Normandie burned and sunk.
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Onno
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posted 02-12-2004 08:08 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was there a marathon of the Twilight Zone on TV last night??!
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desirod7
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posted 02-12-2004 08:49 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by steeplechase:
we got some hair brained president

We have one now

Either way I would not have been born. the Queens shortened the war by a year, add the Normandie by 6 months. My mother's first husband was killed a month before the Germans surrendered. My father was her 2nd.

John Maxtone Graham writes a different tale in his book: Crossing and Cruising

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Brian_O
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posted 02-12-2004 06:21 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by steeplechase:
I can imagine things could have been different too, imagine that the Normandie had sailed with 20,000 soldiers and was torpedoed off the maine coast and JFK's father was aboard and he was never born...

Huh? JFK was born in 1917, long before Normandie was even conceived, let alone built. While JFK was the youngest man to be elected President, he was still 8 years above the minimum age requirement of 35 when he was elected.

Brian


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joe at travelpage
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posted 02-12-2004 06:30 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:

Huh? JFK was born in 1917, long before Normandie was even conceived, let alone built. While JFK was the youngest man to be elected President, he was still 8 years above the minimum age requirement of 35 when he was elected.

Brian


I would be very careful if I were you Brian, you are setting a dangerous precedent here.

It's one thing to point out a factual error, it's quite another to argue against another person's arbitrary shift in the space/time continuum.


Joe at TravelPage.com


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steeplechase
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posted 02-12-2004 06:50 PM      Profile for steeplechase   Author's Homepage   Email steeplechase   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought of looking up my but instead chose to write without facts. Nothing slips past this crew.
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sslewis
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posted 02-12-2004 09:06 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is a good question Russ.
Normandie would have emerged as a more powerful and ultimate 2 funneler Blue Ribband.
Cunard may have replied by upgrading Queen Elizabeth powers.
United States Lines would then have had the foresight to build a ssUS in a more versatile way in order to challenge Normandie incredibly successfull Rio cruises.
Many more ships of the ssRotterdam and ssCanberra would have been launched much earlier.
In fact, ssOceanic would have been the ideal prototype and appeared much earlier, with variants to suit individual tastes like Eugenio C and with a more efficient powerplant.
As for ssEuropa, she may have ended up with Canadian Pacific to replace Empress of Britain, Ile de France would have been sold much earlier, perhaps to Canadian who would then have sold the Europa back to Germany?
As for Pasteur, she would have been heavily remodeled as a Normandie for Chandris!
ssAmerica would have had many larger sisters and sailed to Australia much earlier under a new us Subsidary.
What a beautiful life,
ssLewis

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Kelly D Payne
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posted 02-24-2004 12:11 AM      Profile for Kelly D Payne   Email Kelly D Payne   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You would think an admiral would have known better.i'm sure he knew what sea valves were.
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