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"Just read that NORWAY is "finished" as a cruise ship. As we all expected,the cost of returning to service was prohibitive. NCL is currently negotiating with "floating hotel interests" at a price considerably above her value as scrap. Veicht declined to say where she will be berthed, but it will not be in North America."
Sad news, but not unexpexcted. Hopefully she will do well docked as a hotel somewhere.
[ 03-17-2004: Message edited by: Thad ]
True she is a caricature of her former self, but there is enough of her original fittings to get the essence of her life as LeFrance.
QE2 is next....
I can accept the demise of the ship. What makes me angry is that NCL have been less than honest with the public, although the wall of silence kind of has spoken for itself.
*The cost of bringing her back into service must have been known many months ago?
*So were replacement boiler/s never ordered?
*Was the Norway never really waiting for the boiler to be constructed?
*Why has she been laid up so long?
*Have they been trying to sell her ever since the lay-up?
If they cannot afford to return the damaged Norway back to service, how will they afford to convert rusty shell (SS United States) into a state of the art cruise ship, or is that a lie too?
quote:The Norway will either be sold to another cruise line or sold as a floating hotel. It won't go for scrap, NCL has already recieved a number of offers that exceed scrap value. Futhermore, expect new and bigger ships from NCL. They want to debut a new ship yearly and have already started to contact ship yards regarding bigger ships. They are also expected to fix the United States. The repair cost will be greater than that of a new ship.
Atleast we know that she wont be scraped
tyler
Where had this report come from anyway? I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't sail again, even if it does sadden me never to have sailed her, but I'll await an official report.
Pam
quote:Originally posted by PamM:Malcolm I believe the delay has been to do with the loss adjusters and insurers.
Pam, trust you to be logical! However, my thread is emotional!
Thad
...As NCL continues its fleet renewal program of adding bigger and newer ships, Veitch announced that regretfully the S/S Norway would not return to the North American cruise market. The company continues to evaluate appropriate options for the vessel;
Full Press Release:
quote: Company announces several updates for the NCL brand including the transfer of Norwegian Sea to Star CruisesMIAMI, March 17 – Today during a press conference at the Seatrade Cruise Shipping Convention, Norwegian Cruise Line’s President and Chief Executive Office Colin Veitch made several announcements for the NCL brand.1) SuperStar Leo will be permanently deployed in the NCL fleet after her initial Alaska season and be renamed Norwegian Spirit. The ship will spend the winter in Miami sailing five- and nine-day cruises. Norwegian Spirit’s innovative nine-day itinerary leaves Miami on Friday nights and travels to the Deep Southern Caribbean calling on Bridgetown, Barbados; St. George’s, Grenada; Castries, St. Lucia; St. John’s, Antigua; and Tortola, British Virgin Islands returning on Sundays. According to Veitch, “This unique itinerary will be the only way to cruise the Deep Southern Caribbean and only take a week off work, all with the convenience of a Miami departure, which is just a drive away for the large South Florida market or a short and affordable flight for many markets around the U.S.” Norwegian Spirit’s five-day itinerary will leave Miami on Sundays and call in George Town, Grand Cayman and Roatan, Honduras.2) Norwegian Sea will be transferred to the Star Cruises fleet in Spring of 2005 enabling NCL’s parent company to go forward with its plans to modify its fleet profile in Asia with relatively modern vessels of medium capacity rather than mega ships. Medium sized ships offer greater deployment flexibility and more diversification of capacity in a developing market where demand patterns have yet to be established. “This move once again demonstrates the advantage of having a diverse fleet in two divergent markets that can be strategically redeployed as part of an ever changing global marketplace,” Veitch said. “The redeployment of a mid-size vessel such as Norwegian Sea to Star Cruises is optimal for the Asian market and utilizing a state-of-the-art mega ship such as SuperStar Leo is ideal in the extremely competitive North American market.”3) In October 2005, Norwegian Dream will take over Norwegian Sea’s year round cruises out of Houston sailing Exotic Western Caribbean seven-day cruises calling in Cozumel, Mexico; Roatan, Honduras; Belize City, Belize; and Cancun, Mexico. The company will announce a replacement ship for New Orleans shortly; 4) As NCL continues its fleet renewal program of adding bigger and newer ships, Veitch announced that regretfully the S/S Norway would not return to the North American cruise market. The company continues to evaluate appropriate options for the vessel;5) NCL will be increasing its deployment in Alaska in 2005 with an additional ship bringing its total to four ships cruising Alaska’s Inside Passage. Further details will be announced in the next few weeks. A full deployment schedule for the NCL and Orient Lines brands will also be announced in the next few weeks.More details on Norwegian SpiritOn May 15, 2004, Norwegian Spirit assumes Norwegian Sky’s Alaska program through September 18, 2004.After the Alaska season, Norwegian Spirit will undergo a significant remodeling and refurbishment to further modify her for North American service. Details on Norwegian Spirit’s refurbishment will be announced soon.“We have been extremely pleased with the welcome SuperStar Leo has received since we first announced she would enter the NCL fleet for the Alaska season,” Veitch said. “As the slightly smaller sister of Norwegian Star, the ship will be right at home with our family of modern Freestyle Cruising vessels. “She is the perfect addition to the NCL fleet.”Norwegian Spirit was built by Meyer Werft in Germany in 1999 and was Star Cruises first newbuild and largest vessel. The ship is 879 feet long and 106 feet wide, slightly smaller than her big sister, Norwegian Star. Norwegian Spirit cruises at a maximum speed of 25 knots. Like Norwegian Star, which begins her first Alaska season in May, Norwegian Spirit offers a wide choice of interconnecting cabins perfect for multi-generational families of all sizes. Staterooms feature rich cherry wood finishing and the 391 balcony staterooms offer a much larger bathroom unit than other ships, containing separate WC, shower, and washstand compartments separated by sliding doors. Sixty percent of cabins are outside staterooms and 66 percent of these have balconies.Most cabins include a sofa bed or pop-up trundle bed, giving a third lower bed, and many have a fourth, pull-down berth. The ship also offers a large number of cabins (including suites and junior-suites) that can be combined to create two-, three- or four-bedroom areas suitable for small and large families. In keeping with Freestyle Cruising where guests can dine wherever, whenever, and with whomever they wish, Norwegian Spirit features the flexibility of eight restaurants including two main restaurants; NCL’s signature restaurant Le Bistro; a traditional steakhouse; La Trattoria, an Italian café; a buffet restaurant featuring action stations; and a Japanese/Thai/Chinese Asian complex featuring an a la carte section, a sushi bar, and a teppanyaki room. Norwegian Spirit features world-class amenities including the Moulin Rouge, a 900-seat, two level theatre; the Roman Spa and Fitness Center; Buccaneer’s Wet n’ Wild kids center and a 78-seat cinema. Norwegian Spirit Leo features nine bars and lounges, including a Bier Garten that offers a selection of beers from around the world; a champagne bar called Champagne Charlie’s; Henry’s Pub, a traditional English pub; a karaoke lounge with private karaoke rooms; the Celebrity Disco offering cocktails, entertainment and dancing; and the Observatory, with sweeping ocean views, a dance floor and live entertainment.
1) SuperStar Leo will be permanently deployed in the NCL fleet after her initial Alaska season and be renamed Norwegian Spirit. The ship will spend the winter in Miami sailing five- and nine-day cruises. Norwegian Spirit’s innovative nine-day itinerary leaves Miami on Friday nights and travels to the Deep Southern Caribbean calling on Bridgetown, Barbados; St. George’s, Grenada; Castries, St. Lucia; St. John’s, Antigua; and Tortola, British Virgin Islands returning on Sundays. According to Veitch, “This unique itinerary will be the only way to cruise the Deep Southern Caribbean and only take a week off work, all with the convenience of a Miami departure, which is just a drive away for the large South Florida market or a short and affordable flight for many markets around the U.S.” Norwegian Spirit’s five-day itinerary will leave Miami on Sundays and call in George Town, Grand Cayman and Roatan, Honduras.
2) Norwegian Sea will be transferred to the Star Cruises fleet in Spring of 2005 enabling NCL’s parent company to go forward with its plans to modify its fleet profile in Asia with relatively modern vessels of medium capacity rather than mega ships. Medium sized ships offer greater deployment flexibility and more diversification of capacity in a developing market where demand patterns have yet to be established. “This move once again demonstrates the advantage of having a diverse fleet in two divergent markets that can be strategically redeployed as part of an ever changing global marketplace,” Veitch said. “The redeployment of a mid-size vessel such as Norwegian Sea to Star Cruises is optimal for the Asian market and utilizing a state-of-the-art mega ship such as SuperStar Leo is ideal in the extremely competitive North American market.”
3) In October 2005, Norwegian Dream will take over Norwegian Sea’s year round cruises out of Houston sailing Exotic Western Caribbean seven-day cruises calling in Cozumel, Mexico; Roatan, Honduras; Belize City, Belize; and Cancun, Mexico. The company will announce a replacement ship for New Orleans shortly;
4) As NCL continues its fleet renewal program of adding bigger and newer ships, Veitch announced that regretfully the S/S Norway would not return to the North American cruise market. The company continues to evaluate appropriate options for the vessel;
5) NCL will be increasing its deployment in Alaska in 2005 with an additional ship bringing its total to four ships cruising Alaska’s Inside Passage. Further details will be announced in the next few weeks.
A full deployment schedule for the NCL and Orient Lines brands will also be announced in the next few weeks.
More details on Norwegian SpiritOn May 15, 2004, Norwegian Spirit assumes Norwegian Sky’s Alaska program through September 18, 2004.
After the Alaska season, Norwegian Spirit will undergo a significant remodeling and refurbishment to further modify her for North American service. Details on Norwegian Spirit’s refurbishment will be announced soon.
“We have been extremely pleased with the welcome SuperStar Leo has received since we first announced she would enter the NCL fleet for the Alaska season,” Veitch said. “As the slightly smaller sister of Norwegian Star, the ship will be right at home with our family of modern Freestyle Cruising vessels.
“She is the perfect addition to the NCL fleet.”Norwegian Spirit was built by Meyer Werft in Germany in 1999 and was Star Cruises first newbuild and largest vessel. The ship is 879 feet long and 106 feet wide, slightly smaller than her big sister, Norwegian Star. Norwegian Spirit cruises at a maximum speed of 25 knots.
Like Norwegian Star, which begins her first Alaska season in May, Norwegian Spirit offers a wide choice of interconnecting cabins perfect for multi-generational families of all sizes. Staterooms feature rich cherry wood finishing and the 391 balcony staterooms offer a much larger bathroom unit than other ships, containing separate WC, shower, and washstand compartments separated by sliding doors. Sixty percent of cabins are outside staterooms and 66 percent of these have balconies.
Most cabins include a sofa bed or pop-up trundle bed, giving a third lower bed, and many have a fourth, pull-down berth. The ship also offers a large number of cabins (including suites and junior-suites) that can be combined to create two-, three- or four-bedroom areas suitable for small and large families.
In keeping with Freestyle Cruising where guests can dine wherever, whenever, and with whomever they wish, Norwegian Spirit features the flexibility of eight restaurants including two main restaurants; NCL’s signature restaurant Le Bistro; a traditional steakhouse; La Trattoria, an Italian café; a buffet restaurant featuring action stations; and a Japanese/Thai/Chinese Asian complex featuring an a la carte section, a sushi bar, and a teppanyaki room.
Norwegian Spirit features world-class amenities including the Moulin Rouge, a 900-seat, two level theatre; the Roman Spa and Fitness Center; Buccaneer’s Wet n’ Wild kids center and a 78-seat cinema. Norwegian Spirit Leo features nine bars and lounges, including a Bier Garten that offers a selection of beers from around the world; a champagne bar called Champagne Charlie’s; Henry’s Pub, a traditional English pub; a karaoke lounge with private karaoke rooms; the Celebrity Disco offering cocktails, entertainment and dancing; and the Observatory, with sweeping ocean views, a dance floor and live entertainment.
quote:Originally posted by joe at travelpage:From NCL:...As NCL continues its fleet renewal program of adding bigger and newer ships, Veitch announced that regretfully the S/S Norway would not return to the North American cruise market. The company continues to evaluate appropriate options for the vessel;
quote:Originally posted by Thad: It is not at all surprising, and I bet she stays somewhere in Europe as a floating hotel. As the the QE2, when it is her time, I think she will end up as a floating hotel in Japan.
QE2 left from New York on Jan.3 1989 for Sydney via Strait of Magellan ,LA and Hawaiian Islands. she arrived at Sydney on Mar.10 then she arrived at Yokohama on Mar.27 for use as Hotel shp in the port of Yokohama. She left for Honolulu on Jun. 4
Again in '98 QE2 left from New York on Dec.1 for Honolulu via Panama Canal, LA and Hawaiian Islands, she arrived at Honolulu on Dec.21. and QE2 arrived at Tokyo on Dec. 28 and based in Tokyo and Osaka until Jun. 14.During the time, she was used as hotel ship for about 89 nights, and rest of the time, she saild to South East Asia.
[ 03-17-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
You know, it's funny: After a cruise is over, and I'm heading back to the airport, I always turn to look at the ship as long as I can...until she's out of view. I know it sounds sappy but, it's my way of saying goodbye. I have to admit, most of the time, I get a little teary-eyed. For some strange reason, saying goodbye to Norway was especially difficult. I guess I knew that, because of her age, the odds of seeing her again were slim.
But enough of this sadness.....what a glorious career, eh? Two lives, thousands and thousands of happy passengers, distant lands, and, best of all, a feeling of grandness. And to top it off, it may still not be the end.
Here's to the SS Norway!
Russ
quote:linerguy posted:But enough of this sadness.....what a glorious career, eh? Two lives, thousands and thousands of happy passengers, distant lands, and, best of all, a feeling of grandness. And to top it off, it may still not be the end.Here's to the SS Norway!
LONG LIVE THE BLUE LADY!
To the S.S. NORWAY...the "Blue Lady"!
[ 03-18-2004: Message edited by: Frank X. Prudent ]
Imagine the Revenue the Norway could produce in Asia, she could be more profitable than as a cruise ship!! Especially if she was re-fitted the right way, I know if I had the $$ to buy her, this would be my choice for her!! The SS Norway Hotel and Casino Resort, what a fitting name!
They could not only have 3 big casinos, but conference rooms,karaoke lounges,A huge Chinese Buffet Restaurant a Western Restaurant and even a Coffee Shop and Lounges and make a Huge Disco/Night Club say holding around 400-500 people. I think she would be the Envy of all The Far East and I believe people would come for miles around to visit her.... and dont forget NCL's parent company Star Cruises is owned by a family who speicalizes in Casinos in Malaysia!!
So obvious choice for the Norway!!
quote:Originally posted by gpcruisedude:The Norway as a Hotel ship!! A definite smart decision, she would make an Ideal Hotel.
I disagree. Few hotel ships have ever been successful as far as I’m aware? Even the Queen Mary has struggled over the years.
Much of the SS Norway’s accommodation is small and outdated. We might tolerate it for a cruise on this marvellous ship, but as a hotel, I think not? She also has a hell of a lot of cabins to fill. Hotel ships are rarely maintained to maritime standards so they quickly deteriorate.
As for Hong Kong, look what happened to ‘Seawise University’!
If she does become a hotel ship, I can see her being towed to the scrap yards a year or two later, maximum!
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