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Topic: Mauretania Hull?

Guest
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posted 05-16-2004 06:34 AM

Got this message from my website... and I don't know the answer for sure.. so please HELP!!!

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Regarding RMS Mauretania I learned from photos e. g. in David L. Williams book "Glory Dasy: Cunard" or John Maxtone-Graham's "Cunard 150 glorious years" that in the 30's the ship's hull was painted white. However a 2002 issue of the Ships Monthly magazine included a drawing that showed her hull in a cream shade. Even if this has been a simple drawing (presumably a card of Will's Cigarette cards) it could be correct, as the b/w photos give the slight impression, that the hull is different in shade in comparism to the white superstructures. Have you got any hint about the correct colour?
Many thanks!
Best regards from Germany
Lothar Alteweyer

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Linerdan
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posted 05-16-2004 07:12 AM

Ive checked my reference books , and they all referr to her hull as white.If the colour was different to the superstructures white , i was thinking that maybe the hull had been painted a off-white colour?.I dont think the hull was cream as noone up to this stage has referred to her having a cream hull (which would of been quite easy to describe).
In the 60's when Cunard started there experiments with shades of greens , maybe this was just an experiment of shades of whites in the 30's? , hence the different tones..........Dan

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Ocean Liners
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posted 05-16-2004 08:31 AM

I assume that Lothar Alteweyer refered Page 79 of John Maxtone-Graham's "Cunard 150 glorious years" which seen Four funnels' Mauretania of 1907 with captioned "Mauretania when she turned permanently to West Indian Cruises. The change in hull color said at all"

From Atlantic Liners of The Cunard Line "When she returned to service on 5 February 1930, with her hull painted white"

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Ðraikar
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posted 05-16-2004 01:52 PM

They painted the hull white but after time I think the white turned a shade of cream in some places due the heavy dark black paint underneath and heat, this was a problem on SS America to SS Australis when the hull would look cream or rust color in some place. this is why she was given a gray hull...

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Barryboat
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posted 05-16-2004 03:00 PM

Yes I'll agree with Ðraikar, that the dark black paint under the new white coat will appear discolored after time.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-16-2004 03:31 PM

That is why when a ship is refurbished the hull is stripped down to bare metal and a primer is applied as when France was converted into Norway. Mauretania was on her last legs when she was converted into a cruise ship and little money was spent on the refit.

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linerguy
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posted 05-17-2004 04:32 PM

When her hull was painted white, her boot topping was painted green......

Russ

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Ðraikar
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posted 05-17-2004 04:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by linerguy:
When her hull was painted white, her boot topping was painted green......
Russ

That's up for debate, I think it was red since she was in her last years. Some say green but most say red and there is more info that it was red.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-17-2004 07:42 PM

When was Mauretania's hull actually painted in white. I have read that it was during her winter 1929-30 refit for her West Indies cruise service out of NYC. Other Cunarders had the green boot topping w/white hulls, any color drawings of Maury with the green boot topping?

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Guest
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posted 05-18-2004 01:14 AM

Thanx everyone.

Chris

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linerguy
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posted 05-18-2004 11:47 PM

Some may say that the boot topping was red but, according to the color graphic on the front and back cover of a 1933 Cunard brochure I have, it was green. Entitled "Mauretania Sunshine Cruises", the brochure features cruises to the "Riviera of the Caribbean" on "Cunard's White Cruise Queen". There's a neat photo of Mauretania berthed in Curacao.....

This and the fact that every color rendering of Cunard ships painted white always show a green boot topping, leads me to believe that Mauretania's was green as well.

Russ

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Ðraikar
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posted 05-19-2004 12:41 AM

I seen 3 paintings with red boot topping and only one green. I will try to find the paintings to post later.

The 1933 Cunard brochure may have shown green boot topping only because some of there other ships that were doing well in the cruise market had green.

Then again there were rummer of Olympic to be place for cruise duties and had her sea certificate renewed before profits dropped so I don't know how much work was put into Mauretania.

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Commodore
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posted 05-19-2004 08:40 PM

Sorry if this sounds like a very stupid question but what is a ship's "boot topping"? I've been wondering that for some time now.

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Ðraikar
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posted 05-19-2004 09:47 PM

Water line, below the hull color and above the water...

Below photo shows red "boot topping" on a ship

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 05-19-2004 09:48 PM

It is the colored portion at the water line of a ship. P&O has red as well as Cunard, Carnival has a blue boot topping etc.

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Commodore
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posted 05-20-2004 08:02 AM

Thanks. I sorta figured that after you said that in her later years Mauretania had either red or green boot topping.

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Guest
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posted 05-26-2004 09:21 AM

QE2 had Blue anti-fouling paint for a while in the 70`s.

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