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Thad
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posted 08-12-2004 12:32 PM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It looks like Maritime Replica has completed their model of the Queen Mary 2 and now have it for sale on their website. The cost is sky high at about $3000.00. But the model which is at 1:350 scale looks really nice.

Look here for more information.

[ 08-20-2004: Message edited by: Thad ]


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joe at travelpage
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posted 08-12-2004 01:04 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did they skip the balconies? They don't look to be there?

Compare the model with this photo from Rio:

Need more photos of the model...

Joe at TravelPage.com

[ 08-12-2004: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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Vaccaro
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posted 08-12-2004 01:27 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:
Did they skip the balconies? They don't look to be there? Need more photos...

Joe at TravelPage.com


Well, malicious gossips would say this model does not represent the ship immediately after inauguration but has been built after QM2 as an anticipation after her first crossing season...

...and that answers SSLewis' question of this thread...

In fact, after zooming the image, balconies seem to be there but that was indeed not obvious first.

[ 08-12-2004: Message edited by: Vaccaro ]


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linerguy
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posted 08-12-2004 01:50 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not a fan of Maritime Replicas; the owner is not to be trusted.

If this model were around $500 or $600, I'd say it's worth it. But right off the bat I see four blundering errors ... and that's not even upon close inspection. For $3000, it better be PERFECT.

Thanks Thad!

Russ


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mec1
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posted 08-12-2004 03:14 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK Russ - what are the four errors you spotted?
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linerguy
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posted 08-12-2004 03:52 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The paint scheme on the forward superstructure is all wrong (the end of the black stripes are slanted in and should be slanted out), the netting on the top deck forward is the wrong color green (it's actually very dark almost black), the stanchions supporting the bridge are missing as is the aft CUNARD logo.

Call me picky but, like I said, a $3000 model should be perfect!

Russ


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Fairsky
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posted 08-12-2004 04:30 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree, linerguy. And look at those lifeboats and tenders... they look like cheap toys without any definition or detail. Very poor model for the price. I'll be happy to build my own when the Revell version is available in a few months... for a heck of a lot less than $3000!
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sslewis
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posted 08-13-2004 08:55 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, these models seems a bit overpriced!
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Onno
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posted 08-13-2004 09:31 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good observations Russ, It looks like the tinted glass windshields are painted on instead of being translucent. It really is a far too expansive model, but I’m afraid there are enough people willing to spend it. Think of the money those crappy models make that are supposed to be Titanic, people can’t even spot that those models don’t even look like Titanic so they won’t spot your inaccuracy observation either.

Onno


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posted 08-13-2004 09:46 PM      Profile for Britanis   Email Britanis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Personaly, I if I had $3,000 to spend on a ship model, I would much rather spend it on one of Onno's- his are true works of art- and they're accurate!
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Onno
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posted 08-14-2004 09:47 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Glad you like my models Britanis, of course my models have little inaccuracies too (but that is a secret between you and me!) Unlike Maritime Replica, without the use of bleu prints I need to fall back on visual research and there are times I can’t find a picture showing that particular part of the ship I need to know. That is where improvising comes in quite handy.

Onno


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dmwnc1
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posted 08-15-2004 04:09 AM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am sure it will be nice to have our very own QM2 model to work on and display in our homes, but I am wondering how accurate Revell's model is going to be, especially when it comes to the many, MANY balconies on this liner. And what about the railings alongs these balconies, as well as everywhere else on the ship. And how are those windscreens going to be portrayed on the model, as a solid piece of plastic to be painted in. Is the plastic version going to take a lot of customizing work on your part and replacing of parts to make it authentic looking? How accurate can this model REALLY be when you open the box?
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posted 08-15-2004 04:37 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I am sure it will be nice to have our very own QM2 model to work on and display in our homes, but I am wondering how accurate Revell's model is going to be, especially when it comes to the many, MANY balconies on this liner. And what about the railings alongs these balconies, as well as everywhere else on the ship. And how are those windscreens going to be portrayed on the model, as a solid piece of plastic to be painted in. Is the plastic version going to take a lot of customizing work on your part and replacing of parts to make it authentic looking? How accurate can this model REALLY be when you open the box?

But the first thread was posted as below: The cost is sky high at about $3000.00. But the model which is at 1:350 scale looks really nice.
They must make the model as much as Original.

[ 08-15-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 08-15-2004 08:47 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I am sure it will be nice to have our very own QM2 model to work on and display in our homes, but I am wondering how accurate Revell's model is going to be, especially when it comes to the many, MANY balconies on this liner. And what about the railings alongs these balconies, as well as everywhere else on the ship. And how are those windscreens going to be portrayed on the model, as a solid piece of plastic to be painted in. Is the plastic version going to take a lot of customizing work on your part and replacing of parts to make it authentic looking? How accurate can this model REALLY be when you open the box?

Some companies produce models that are more accuarate than others, My 1/600 Airfix QM, QE, QE2, France, Canberra are pretty good in my opinion. The Revell 1/570 version of QM1 is not as good, the hull is quite detailed but the propellar layout and boat davits are off. There are other brands (not sure what the company is, I think it was Ideal Toys at one time) that produced 1/400 (I think) versions of SS United States, SS France and they are really off. The ships just don't look correct and some details are just awful, they may not have had actual builders plans to go from. Has anyone built the 1/600 Airfix version of QM2 yet?


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Vaccaro
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posted 08-16-2004 04:10 AM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Some companies produce models that are more accuarate than others, My 1/600 Airfix QM, QE, QE2, France, Canberra are pretty good in my opinion. The Revell 1/570 version of QM1 is not as good, the hull is quite detailed but the propellar layout and boat davits are off. .... Has anyone built the 1/600 Airfix version of QM2 yet?


Lasuvidaboy,

A 1/600 QM from Airfix, are you sure?
I have FRANCE, QE, QE2, MAURETANIA and CANBERRA (still under construction for 3 years) from Airfix but never saw a QM from Airfix (I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just the first time I heard of it).
And yes they are more accurate and realistic than the 1/570 QM and TITANIC or 1/600 UNITED STATES from Revell for instance (QM being more refined in the details than UNITED STATES and TITANIC though).


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 08-16-2004 01:07 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Vaccaro:

Lasuvidaboy,

A 1/600 QM from Airfix, are you sure?
I have FRANCE, QE, QE2, MAURETANIA and CANBERRA (still under construction for 3 years) from Airfix but never saw a QM from Airfix (I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just the first time I heard of it).
And yes they are more accurate and realistic than the 1/570 QM and TITANIC or 1/600 UNITED STATES from Revell for instance (QM being more refined in the details than UNITED STATES and TITANIC though).


Sorry!! I mis-typed. A 1/600 QM1 does not exist from Airfix. The one I know in that similar scale is the 1/570 Revell version that has been around for years.


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sslewis
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posted 08-16-2004 01:17 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wish Revell did a little update of QM1 whose hull is gem with plates and rivets.
After seing this model, I think I'd rather get back to kits and order the QM2 !

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posted 08-20-2004 03:58 AM      Profile for ECarusDr   Author's Homepage   Email ECarusDr   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You are all basing your comments on the first "shot" of the QM2 which was on their website for the first few days. Please revisit their site for the first true picturesof the actual defined model at www.maritimereplicas.com/qm2.htm and www.maritimereplicas.com.

All the details are there and I would welcome your comments on what is a "museum model" not a toy. By the way, I know Maritime Replicas very well and find the comments above about the owner highly offensive. He is honest in a hard business world and needs as much custom as possible.

Edmund


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Thad
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posted 08-20-2004 09:27 AM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While I have never dealthwith Maritime Replicas at all, I was fortunate to be able to buy one of their models of the Fantasy second hand. I must say that their detail work is fantastic. Look at this image of the Stern Lido areas of the new QM2 to see how imcredible their models really are...


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posted 08-20-2004 10:19 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"You never get a second chance to make a good first impression." I have forgotten the author of this quote, but, following ECarusDr's posting here, take a good look at the details at the site.

Three grand is reasonable, given the manhours presumably involved in such a production.

And I seem to detect railings. Possibly the bolts which hold them together are missing.........but??

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posted 08-20-2004 10:32 AM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
First of all, many thanks Thad, for posting new pics.

However, I have to say that - for the cash - I'm still not terribly impressed. Look at the bridge. Yes the support posts have been added but look how far back the bridge front sits in relation to the top of the forward superstructure. In reality, the two pretty much line up.

Also, what happened to the separate panes of glass and the doors on the duplex suites ... not to mention the separate panes of glass and the railing outside Todd English (the al fresco area). The windows on the sides of the aft section are missing their white, slanted dividers. The deck chairs are not green, their teak w/green cushions.

Don't get me wrong ... this is a wonderful model; far better than I could ever do. But then again, I wouldn't be asking three grand for one either.

Russ


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Fairsky
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posted 08-20-2004 02:52 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These new photos are much nicer than the first image posted. While still very expensive, this model appears much more accurate and detailed.

I wish Maritime Replicas would develop smaller, even less detailed, models for a more accessible price... say under $500.


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posted 08-24-2004 02:09 PM      Profile for chateausmith   Email chateausmith   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Best model I ever saw was of QE2, especially commissioned by a passenger as a retirement gift for Capt. Robin Woodall. Made by the Crown Jewellers Garrards in Sterling Silver with Gold Lifeboats, and mounted on a carved wood plinth with the grain depicting waves.Cheers.
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posted 08-29-2004 08:35 AM      Profile for ECarusDr   Author's Homepage   Email ECarusDr   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The bridge positioning on the MRA QM2 is absolutely correct. This is verified from the plans of the completed vessel.

Cheers!

Edmund


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posted 08-29-2004 06:53 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ECarusDr:
The bridge positioning on the MRA QM2 is absolutely correct. This is verified from the plans of the completed vessel.

Cheers!

Edmund


Ah, but is the completed vessel the same as the plans?

Look at this photo of the deck area below the bridge. Also talk a look at the same area in the QM2 in Rio photo above.

The photos of the actual ship seem to show poles connecting the bottom of the bridge deck to the top of the railing in the lookout area. In the model, the lookout area seems to extend further forward than the on actual ship and there are no poles connecting the bridge deck to the center railing in the observation area.

Don't get me wrong, I actually own a couple of Maritime Replica models and I think they are as good as you can get but there does seem to be a difference between the model and the actual ship.

Joe at TravelPage.com

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