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Topic: Revell Queen Mary 2 model pictures

dmwnc1
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Member # 3785

posted 10-01-2004 11:04 AM

This may have already been posted but I found these pictures of the new Revell QM2 model...HOW EXCITING! It looks huge!

http://www.revell.de/en/modelkits/queen_mary/index.php

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8666263
First Class Passenger
Member # 5083

posted 10-01-2004 11:18 AM

WOW!!! how much is it 40-50$?

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dmwnc1
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Member # 3785

posted 10-01-2004 11:25 AM

The detail of the model is magnificent...down to every balcony divider and railings.

I heard the model was going to cost in the vicinity of 70-100$, but it looks to be work every penny!

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Barrys
First Class Passenger
Member # 5053

posted 10-01-2004 12:42 PM

Incredible!

Sign me up I want it for my collection of liner models.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 10-01-2004 12:45 PM

Looks huge!! and I thought the 1/600 Airfix QM2 I am currently working on was big. I guess I will have to order it from the UK as I did with my QM2 as our hobby shops usually do not carry passenger ship models (the very few available) here in California.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 10-01-2004 05:02 PM

It does look very interesting, love to have one that size, but I await to see a finished item. Wonder how long it will take to build.
Pam

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Johan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4458

posted 10-01-2004 05:32 PM

It sure looks interesting, but difficult too : the needed skill is "9", while that for Queen Mary is 4, and for Titanic 5 and twice 3 (they have 3 modells of titanic

) and 3 for the mini-kit of the QE2

But it sure looks nice, at least very big, as is the real QM2

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Jekyll
First Class Passenger
Member # 1878

posted 10-01-2004 08:29 PM

Detailed maybe - but the link calls it Queen Mary II

Is this misnaming EVER gonna get fixed????

It is definitely is one of my pet peeves!

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CGT
First Class Passenger
Member # 3531

posted 10-01-2004 11:25 PM

Yeah, ummm why have they never ever fricken made one for NORMANDIE? I looked all over Paris for a NORMANDIE model kit, "Non, monsieur, but we have Le QUEEN MARY"

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 10-04-2004 10:47 AM

CGT,
keep trying....
With QM2, modelmakers start to realise the potential for classic releases..
Airfix is going mad trying to find the lost mould for the ssFrance.
They have re-released the Lizzy, but they need a nother big classic..so Normandie would be the best choice!

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 10-04-2004 11:23 AM

There is a Normandie model kit available, only not a cheaply produced plastic kit but a resin kit. (which is expansive at $ 195) The model is scale 1:600 which made it fit the existing Airfix models of QM2, QE, QE2, Canberra and France.
http://oceanlinermodels.com/_wsn/page2.html

There are also a couple of cardboard models available which range from low quality and detail to excellent details. And then you could also scratch build a Normandie model as Jeffrossatsea and I have don a while ago.

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Johan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4458

posted 10-04-2004 06:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Onno:
There are also a couple of cardboard models available which range from low quality and detail to excellent details. And then you could also scratch build a Normandie model as Jeffrossatsea and I have don a while ago.

Hi Onno
you crlearly overrate my modelmaking skills

I am for the moment stuck in the airfix queen elizabeth for some months now. a kind of "model making block" - it doesn't seem to come right (and i am only in the painting stage

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 10-04-2004 07:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sslewis:
CGT,
keep trying....
With QM2, modelmakers start to realise the potential for classic releases..
Airfix is going mad trying to find the lost mould for the ssFrance.
They have re-released the Lizzy, but they need a nother big classic..so Normandie would be the best choice!

Anyone know the approx. cost for a model company to develop a new ship model? Considering that Airfix is still selling the re-issue of QE1, QE2, Canberra, Mauretania and the discontinued SS France models get many high bids on Ebay, there is a demand for these classic liners.

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 10-05-2004 01:00 AM

The most expansive part of making an injection moulded model are the steel moulds. Designing a model with nowadays CAD programs is relative easy. This digital file is also used to guide the machine that cuts out the moulds (which in the old days was don by hand) producing the kit is also relative cheap especially if don in China and in large quantities. As I said the most expensive part is the steal of the moulds. When steel plates (really thick ones of 1 meter) are produced only a small part of the plate is suitable for making injection moulds. This is because there is placed so much force on the moulds in production and that for a couple of 1000 times (depending of your production quantity) The costs of this specific small part of steel is expensive and it can only be economically viable if you sell a specific amount of kits. The target group interested in Ocean liners is simply too small for any model company to take the risk in investing. This is also the reason why we have to do with re-releases of older kits. The moulds were already produced in the past and as I said injection moulding the kits is relative cheap (if you have the moulds) So until the original moulds of the France model are found it will be unlikely a model company will invest in producing a new kit of a 40 year old ship that is forgotten by the mass public.

QM2 is a big hype and that is why 2 companies were willing to take the risk and have spend their Liner model budged on producing the QM2 model.

Onno

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 10-05-2004 06:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Onno:
Designing a model with nowadays CAD programs is relative easy.

I was speaking to one of the German staff from www.classic-ship.de and he said it was very difficult to obtain copies of the drawings from the cruise lines.

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 10-05-2004 09:52 AM

I bet it was Malcolm, for my scratch build I only had the deck plans and the construction pictures (mostly from Pam) to study for creating my model. I heard Revell had a special team working on the model that was aloud to observe and measure the real ship during construction (I wonder how the measured the length?!)

Onno

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Hi Seas
First Class Passenger
Member # 5085

posted 10-05-2004 10:57 AM

All I can do is shake my head as I drool over this thing. My god, I'd swear QM2 was modeled after this one!

My guess it would take one months to complete. There appears to be many humdreds of parts.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 10-05-2004 12:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hi Seas:
All I can do is shake my head as I drool over this thing. My god, I'd swear QM2 was modeled after this one!
My guess it would take one months to complete. There appears to be many humdreds of parts.

At least it does not have the annoying decals that the Airfix version has. I am currently working on the 1/600 QM2 and HATE the decals!!. I am making my own and would rather paint certain parts than work with the hard to handle decals provided. It also has the 2 piece moulded in white plastic hull that Airfix also should have gone with (similar to their QE2 model) that includes the moulded in place aft veranda windows. I seems to have many parts, but appears to have been designed better than the Airfix version in my opinion.

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 10-05-2004 01:05 PM

Though richly detailed I think you need to be an experienced modeller to build this kit. If you look at the picture below you will notice the forward curved superstructure is made up out of 3 separate parts. Also notice the many seams created by the parts, these will need to be filled up with putty to look nice and convincing.

The balconies and the lifeboats looks accurate and the aft windshields already have the little dividing lines moulded on the clear plastic parts (only need a lit line of paint over it) but the funnel is too chunky for me. If you look at the funnel picture above you notice the openings in the side are solid while on the real QM2 these are open and create a hollow space inside the wind scoops (for air cooling the turbines behind the funnel).

Looks like both Airfix and Revell model has their own good qualities and weaker points. I probably won't make the Revell kit becuse the scale 1:400 is not my favorite scale to work in. I tried a 1:400 Titanic but it is still 1/10th build in the box after several years. Scale 1:600 is just perfect for me.

Onno

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 10-05-2004 02:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Onno:
Though richly detailed I think you need to be an experienced modeller to build this kit. If you look at the picture below you will notice the forward curved superstructure is made up out of 3 separate parts. Also notice the many seams created by the parts, these will need to be filled up with putty to look nice and convincing.
The balconies and the lifeboats looks accurate and the aft windshields already have the little dividing lines moulded on the clear plastic parts (only need a lit line of paint over it) but the funnel is too chunky for me. If you look at the funnel picture above you notice the openings in the side are solid while on the real QM2 these are open and create a hollow space inside the wind scoops (for air cooling the turbines behind the funnel).
Looks like both Airfix and Revell model has their own good qualities and weaker points. I probably won't make the Revell kit becuse the scale 1:400 is not my favorite scale to work in. I tried a 1:400 Titanic but it is still 1/10th build in the box after several years. Scale 1:600 is just perfect for me.
Onno

Onno; I still HATE the decals!!

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 10-05-2004 02:59 PM

I know what you mean, I prefer painting details like thin white water lines, funnel bands etc. Only the names, hull markings and logo’s are use full decals. I can imagine the decals are helpful for the less experienced modeller.

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cruiseshipluver
First Class Passenger
Member # 5104

posted 10-05-2004 09:57 PM

Very nice model i must say, very detalied too...and it looks big for that scale........unless you are an experienced model builder i would recommend that one for u

thanks,
cruiseshipluver

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 10-06-2004 01:11 PM

I have 3 versions of QE2, Revell, Airfix and a 1/400 whose funnel would fit well on this 1/400 Revell kit of QM2.
Anybody tried it yet?

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 10-08-2004 10:28 AM

A few more pictures...

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 10-08-2004 01:31 PM

OK, now I'm even more excited, and a bit scared. After looking at the pictures of the parts trees it looks to be a challenge! I am really glad I took a lot of exterior pictures of the QM2 when I went on her. I see from another post that my picture of the area below the bridge/wings with the support columns is raising some issues of the accuracy of some QM2 models, kits and otherwise.

I found the Revell model kit on a UK website for sale at around 27BPS and the next day they were already sold out of their allotment, even months before their shipment is to arrive.

Now, if I can get my kit in before Winter sets in, I'll have until Spring to finish it off! :-)

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