Next to the ripped s.s. Nieuw Amsterdam 2 is the Home Lines Homeric.

Its very a very shocking day here in the Netherlands. Everybody (almost) is talking about Theo van Gogh (he is related in first line to Vincent van Gogh) Fore the second time someone is murdered because he speakes out his opinion. He was a remarkeble man and a great director / writter. Its shocking what happens it makes me and many poeple sad, somber, angry.

The scrapping pictures are not placed because i feel somber ore in the light off the sad events off yesterday inn Amsterdam. No they where placed because they are part off the history off the Nieuw Amsterdam.

Pam thank you, i think the last picture off the serie is the most sad one. Its the one wich showed the last peace off the Nieuw Amsterdam scrapped its a part off the bow.

Greatings Ben.

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Originally posted by sslewis:
Is there a picture of ssNA bow whilst she is being scrapped?
I noticed they started from the stern, leaving the funnels and bow intact until the last moment.
What a waist some of the scrappers must have though....

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They have thought that. Whene Nieuw Amsterdam arrived even the scrappers noted that they where about to scrap a legend. The actual time between scrapping arrival and scrapping take a view months. In that period the scrap yard removed al art works still in the ship. They also removed the glas light fixtures in the main dinning room. After they ripped the vessel, artifacts and furniture of the vessel apear in the Dutch department store de Bijenkorf in Rotterdam soled theme an entire floor was ussed to display the furniture and deckchares.

There is a picture off the bow being scraped its the last one off the page.

Onno

It would have been nice to have those funnels preserved. Not easy though (didn't those of the Queen MAry collapse when taken of the ship ?) In "De Grote Drie" there is a pic of the funnels in the dockyard before being installed, full of hope and expectation, rather, than this sad end.

If all those fixtures were sold in the Bijenkorf, they must still be somewhere ! Is there no collection ? Don't they never surface again ? After 30 years they can't be always with the same owners ? Were they sold with "certificates" or any other sign they came from the Nieuw Amsterdam, or were they sold as "second hand objets d'art" ?

Indeed “de grote drie” holds a couple of interesting pictures of the forward funnel. I have seen some original news footage of the funnel placed on a barge and being towed underneath the “Hef” bridge in Rotterdam for installation on the ship. I always liked funnel number 1’s looks with the large ventilation openings in front. Shortly after she entered service the openings were closed off because the intended air stream, to sweep up the smoke, did not work as planned.

The scraping pictures have a highly emotion contends to it, does it only look that way or was she white instead of the duff grey hull?

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If all those fixtures were sold in the Bijenkorf, they must still be somewhere ! Is there no collection ? Don't they never surface again ? After 30 years they can't be always with the same owners ? Were they sold with "certificates" or any other sign they came from the Nieuw Amsterdam, or were they sold as "second hand objets d'art" ?

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Johan sometimes they appear on places you least aspect theme to. I heave seem theme in Maastricht (southern Netherlands) even in Zwolle (northern Netherlands), and many peaces are still in Rotterdam. They where bought by poeple frome around the world and many items are still in the depot off the Rotterdam maritime museum. And some off theme are on display like the Mermaid door handles off the (i believe) Ritz Carlton. And the biggest off al the Grand Lounge pre war ceiling.

Years there where standing in a litle store here in Rotterdam some deck chairs fore sale 2 off the Nieuw Amsterdam 1 one off the Queen Mary and one off the Ille de France they where to expenciff i recall 2000 ech thene in guldens. One importened item is also saved off the scrapyard the steam horns they where ussed years ago by the opening off the new technical university building off Leiden.
Where they are till this day i have no trace found.

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Indeed “de grote drie” holds a couple of interesting pictures of the forward funnel. I have seen some original news footage of the funnel placed on a barge and being towed underneath the “Hef” bridge in Rotterdam for installation on the ship. I always liked funnel number 1’s looks with the large ventilation openings in front. Shortly after she entered service the openings were closed off because the intended air stream, to sweep up the smoke, did not work as planned.

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Onno funny story about those air openings. They realy not working and iff you see pictures frome here in midt sea you see the smoke coming down direct behind the funnel nr 1. That was 1 class Lido deck and passengers on that deck where constatly covered with black ashes. On one off the first cruises to South America on the fancy dress ball a/b Nw. A'dam there was a male passenger dressed up in black, black hands, black face, black hair and witch a sandwich board. On this sandwich board was written 2 minutes on the Lido deck.

Soon after that at the first anual drydocking inn 1939 the openings where closed.

Greatings Ben.

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Originally posted by Onno:

The scraping pictures have a highly emotion contends to it, does it only look that way or was she white instead of the duff grey hull?

Onno[/QB]

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She was painted in dove grey up to the end. As I posted earlier, there are additional photos of her at kudos-marine.com that show her from a 3/4 stern photo with Homeric next to her. Also shown is a port side close-up with a barge next to her.

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Originally posted by cruiserny:
In the first picture of the Niuew Amsterdam 2 it says that the Home Lines Homeric is being scrapped but,umm isn't the Homeric the costa europa right now?

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Different Homeric, different era. The Homeric in the picture is Home Lines' first Homeric (ex-Mariposa) which was scrapped in 1974 after suffering a fire in 1973. She was replaced in the Home Lines fleet by Doric (ex-Hanseatic, ex-Shalom).

Brian

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A proof how carefull the crew was with here even to here last docking they handle here with al the care she deserve.......

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Originally posted by elad:
Do annybody know when/if Cunard planning to put QE2 out of sevice ?

Elad

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Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

She was painted in dove grey up to the end. As I posted earlier, there are additional photos of her at kudos-marine.com that show her from a 3/4 stern photo with Homeric next to her. Also shown is a port side close-up with a barge next to her.

Does anyone know when the modern style long narrow (similar to Rotterdam V's) windows were installed in the Henry Hudson lounge on main deck aft?

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Niuew Amsterdam scheduled to Cruise 7, 8, 10-day West Indies Cruise from Fort Lauderdale until ed of 1974 except from Aug. 27 to Sep. 25, 1973.

During the period, She was expected to depart Fort Lauderdale on Aug. 27 on Transatlantic to Lisbon arrive on Sep. 5 and depart there on Sep. 17 and arrive Fort Lauderale on Sep. 25, 1973.

I knew that she departed on final voyage from Fort Lauderale to Los Angeles on January 1974 though

Does anyone know the Itineraies in fact during the period?

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Originally posted by sslewis:
Onno,
If you look into my galleries, you will see a Celebrity funnel being built for Chantiers.
I think like you, funnels should be preserved!
Pam,
could you post the picture here?
Usually, bits like place where the champagne bottle strucked are kept.
I am surprised little of the ss NA was saved in Holland.
Normandie bow and various items can be found all over the US and France.

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Earlyer i wrote this replay to Johan ssLewis

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Johan sometimes they appear on places you least aspect theme to. I heave seem theme in Maastricht (southern Netherlands) even in Zwolle (northern Netherlands), and many peaces are still in Rotterdam. They where bought by poeple frome around the world and many items are still in the depot off the Rotterdam maritime museum. And some off theme are on display like the Mermaid door handles off the (i believe) Ritz Carlton. And the biggest off al the Grand Lounge pre war ceiling.

Years there where standing in a litle store here in Rotterdam some deck chairs fore sale 2 off the Nieuw Amsterdam 1 one off the Queen Mary and one off the Ille de France they where to expenciff i recall 2000 ech thene in guldens. One importened item is also saved off the scrapyard the steam horns they where ussed years ago by the opening off the new technical university building off Leiden.
Where they are till this day i have no trace found.

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Originally posted by sslewis:
Pam,
could you post the picture here?

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Onno