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Corey
Think about it....where would you add decks if you had the opportunity?
(hint: inserting them in the middle is a lot of work )
Joe at TravelPage.com
quote:Originally posted by Cruisincorey13:Where are two decks that were added on the Norway? Corey
The prefabricated decks were added above the sun deck. The forward third section is two decks high while the aft section is one deck high. The alteration took place at the end of 1990. The decks added 124 suites and cabins and increaed her tonnage to 76,000 tons. The entire refit cost NCL over $40 million dollars.
quote:Originally posted by Keitaro:I always wondered why the Sun deck (new deck in the front) looks half as high as the Sky deck below? Also curious to know if the aft suites on the Fjord deck was also added during the 1990 refit?
Could be that the lower deck is taller (because of public rooms) or the solid railings that run along the forward portion of sky deck break it up, making it appear even lower in height.
quote:Originally posted by joe at travelpage:Corey,(hint: inserting them in the middle is a lot of work )Joe at TravelPage.com
So they were added at the bottom, right?
Brian
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:The first time I saw her in 1991 with the new decks I was shocked. Her external beauty was destroyed but she was able to sail an additional decade and compete with the newbuilds coming on line. If the funnels and deckhouses had been raised as well, she would have looked much better IMO.
I not agree totally with you, i believe that NCL wanted to have the biggest ship in the world. After QE2 have here refit at the end off the 80's Cunard say that she was bigger i blieve around 71.000 grt Thene NCL desided to add the 2 decks so they once again have the biggest vessel in service. Ultimatly loses the title to the Sovereign off the Seas.
They destroid the ships profile. The ship would have easy sail fore the next 10 years and longer. Compare here to the Rotterdam with no problems to attract passengers even in here late life she was populair. and iff i reed the sometimes passion post about the Norway. The ship was thene as now loved. At the end its al about who have the most money and the biggest
Ben.
My image below of the converted Norway shows the two decks, above the bridge windows, very clearly.
The picture below shows the SS Norway at Southampton (September 2001) for the last time.
As already pointed out, adding the extra decks spoilt her sleek looks and made her funnels look shorter. It also made her less areodynamic.
However, it did increase her passeger capacity and quality of accomodation, which made her more profitable as a 'cruise ship' rather than an Ocean Liner. In my opinion it effectively saved her life!
Even people who are interested in the history of ships (and most cruise passengers are probably not) like to stay in spacious cabins! Many of the original SS France cabins were not.
[ 12-03-2004: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
Her is a graphic illustration I made of Norway as present and of France, compare the differences!
Onno
The windows on Sun Deck are set back from the edge of the ship, to accommodate the balconies on that level. From most perspectives, it makes those windows look smaller, but they are really the same height (floor to ceiling) as those on the deck below.
BTW, I sailed many times on NORWAY in the original cabins on every deck as well as several cruises in the new cabins. The new cabins were wonderful regarding space, light (the whole wall of glass was great!) and creature comforts. I think those accommodations did a lot to extend the life of the ship for the cruising public.
However, sailing in one of the original cabins gave you that "ocean liner" feel, with original fixtures, real portholes if you had an outside cabin, and the feeling that this could still be the FRANCE if you let your imagination take over!
Rich
quote:
The question where it was added was not a bright question! Thanks for showing me a picture of the two added decks!
quote:Originally posted by Cruisincorey13:The question where it was added was not a bright question!
It was not dumb question either! I think the Cruisetalkers are jusy having a little fun.
Many new cabins were also created on the Pool Deck, by converting the Promenades. Now the pool deck is a deck near the MIDDLE of the ship.
A number of other changes were also made in the conversion from 'Ocean Liner' to 'Cruise Ship'.
quote:Originally posted by Brian_O:So they were added at the bottom, right? Brian
Actually corey's question isn't so ridiculous. As evidence I give you BC Ferries' Queen of Burnaby and Queen of New Westminster. Sister-ships, but the QNW had an extra deck inserted in the middle of the ship:
[ 12-03-2004: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]
quote:Originally posted by Linerrich:The windows on Sun Deck are set back from the edge of the ship, to accommodate the balconies on that level. From most perspectives, it makes those windows look smaller, but they are really the same height (floor to ceiling) as those on the deck below.
The new decks could have look worse if NCL placed two decks of N SKY/N SUN type balcony "block" instead. The NORWAY actually doesn't look bad with the additional decks if you look from the side, but the bowshot angle is shocking!
[ 12-05-2004: Message edited by: cruisintoday14 ]
quote:Originally posted by cruisintoday14:I realy don't like the tender on the bow of the ship it looks stupid anyone else think that?
Yes, I agree, but ‘Little Norway’ 1 & 2 are a necessity. They do offer a relatively quick way to get the guests ashore when the ship is at anchor.
Those so-called suites with the floor-to-ceiling windows are very pleasant. I enjoyed evey minute in it. I think I prefer those to a balcony...better view of the water, that's for sure.
And yes, the vintage charm of the original first class cabins is unmistakable. The original France suites were quite nice. On the Fjord deck. Kind of a hybrid between old and new.
quote:Originally posted by tg_lindo:And yes, the vintage charm of the original first class cabins is unmistakable. The original France suites were quite nice. On the Fjord deck. Kind of a hybrid between old and new.
In addition to the above, Original France's cabin were #F001 - F022(former S001 - S022) however former Ile de France and Normandie suites and most suites located on Viking Deck.
[ 12-07-2004: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
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