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Georg Ots could accommodate about 216 passengers and 784 unberthed passengers.Belorussiya class could accommodate 110 passengers in Pullman seats in the Salon.
Two Near Sister ships, Mikhail Sholokov and Konstantin Chernenko were built at the same shipyards and delivered to Far Eastern Shipping Company in 1986.
Does anyone have the information about unberthed passengers seats or photo?
[ 05-01-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
Greatings Ben.
[ 05-01-2005: Message edited by: Maasdam ]
Not an atractiv ship i think. More ugly.
quote:Originally posted by claudio:the michail sholokhov and russ at one stage were both cruising out of australia
the michail sholokhov and russ at one stage were both cruising out of australia
Pacific Cruise Company chartered and marketed Cruises out of Australia in the '90s.Mikhail Sholokhov visited to Yokohama and Kobe on her 45-Nights Cruise in 1993 and Russ(ex- Konstantin Chernenko) sailed to Nagasaki and Kagoshima on her 54 Nights Singapore, Vietnam, Hong Kong, China, Japan Cruise in 1984.
Rich
[ 05-01-2005: Message edited by: Linerrich ]
www.oceanjewel.com
At least I think so because I booked this trough our friend Patrick but I havent got any vouchers yet.Anyway: I let you know how it was
Paloma. I don't think this series are ugly at all. besides Ocean Jewel, there are Cruisetalk Galleries by Patrick of Iris, ex Konstantin Simonov, Palmira, ex Lev Tolstoy, before she became the Jasmine, [my pics].
I think they're quite nice as ferries go.
Pam
Remember that these ladies are built as ferries when you consider them as ugly. I think they look pretty good and that they are very good designs since they operate very successfully as cruise ships after so many years. They also have half sisters which are also successful: Iskenderun, Samsun and Ankara of Turkish Maritime Lines and the Polish Pomerania (got real ugly after modernization and rebuilduing in 1997!) ans Silesia.
I have pictures of Dimitry Shostakovich, Lev Tolstoy and Konstantin Simonov on my webpage:
Soviet Ships
.-ata
quote:Originally posted by flotsam'n jetsam:Remember that these ladies are built as ferries when you consider them as ugly.
Remember that these ladies are built as ferries when you consider them as ugly.
Someone posted in the web page in 1994 that Georg Ots was transformed to car-ferry quite recentlyt (about 2 years ago). It was made longer, and car deck was built in. Also the first and back doors were added. Currently it is a car ferry.
So - it used not to be a car ferry until its rebuilding into such...
quote:Originally posted by Ocean Liners:So - it used not to be a car ferry until its rebuilding into such... [/i]
I am not familiar with Georg Ots since she was not used in the Black Sea route. However, I find that hard to believe somehow. All my sources and the form of the ship confirm that it has always been a car ferry. I could not find any source of information proving otherwise. However, it would be very interesting to know if you are right. Anyone (Patrick, maybe) can confirm this?
Thanks.
quote:Originally posted by flotsam'n jetsam:I am not familiar with Georg Ots since she was not used in the Black Sea route. However, I find that hard to believe somehow. All my sources and the form of the ship confirm that it has always been a car ferry. I could not find any source of information proving otherwise. However, it would be very interesting to know if you are right. Anyone (Patrick, maybe) can confirm this?Thanks..-ata
Thanks..-ata
I´m very familiar With Georg Ots (name came from Estonian singer, that was very known in Finland too)
She was built for Estonian Shipping company (ESCO) and was used in the Tallinn-Helsinki route. she could take only 14 cars, and because that GO was rebuild with cardeck in -93 but it wasn´t lenghtened. After rebuild she could take 150 cars.
later she was chartered to Hansatee (Tallink) and was used in the same route. in year 2000 GO was laid up in tallinn. Now she is owned by St Petersburg Shipping and is in route from St Petersburg to kaliningrad.
it´s kind of funny that she is operating from St Petersburg like her sister Mikhail Suslov
quote:Originally posted by finn-yards:She was built for Estonian Shipping company (ESCO) and was used in the Tallinn-Helsinki route. she could take only 14 cars, and because that GO was rebuild with cardeck in -93 but it wasn´t lenghtened. After rebuild she could take 150 cars.
Georg Ots was added the sponsons on either sides.
quote:Originally posted by Ocean Liners:Georg Ots was added the sponsons on either sides.
oh? are you saying that adding sponsons make the passenger- and cardecks bigger?
oh, and I forgot to add a link to the excellent swedish Fakta om Fartyg-site. There are all the facts and figures of Georg Ots and her sisters
Fakta om Fartyg - Georg ots
quote:Originally posted by finn-yards:oh? are you saying that adding sponsons make the passenger- and cardecks bigger?
She is a llittle bit longer than she was originally built by adding the sponsons to the stern.
[ 05-02-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
sorry for my delay in replying but I have been out of the country for some days.
Johan: You'll recieve your documents soon, they were send out today so you should get them by Wednesday the latest. Wishing a wonderful cruise onboard our Paloma !
As Finn-yards said, the GEORG OTS's car deck has been extended internally. She got some modifications to her exterior appearance like some sponsons, larger back-ramp and a fully enclosed bridge. Besides the GEORG OTS, only UGO FOSCOLO and RUSS are trading on a regular ferry-service. the others are all employed on either cruises or gambeling cruises.Nicest one (I'm a bit proud about) is the IRIS, followed by The JASMINE. Both have been very much upgraded and look really nice. Beside that, Mano does a great job with the operation of the vessels.PALOMA is on the German market during summer season. She is a rather simple ship without finnesse but many people like her just because it is not a luxury product but comfortable with a friendly ambiance.You can check out on travelpage my file about the Soviet ships. It is not totally up-to-date but can be informative.For bookings on PALOMA, IRIS or JASMINE you can contact me directly per e-mail if you like.
Patrick
quote:Originally posted by Ocean Liners:She is a little bit longer than she was originally built by adding the sponsons to the stern. [ 05-02-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
She is a little bit longer than she was originally built by adding the sponsons to the stern.
I understand it, but that increase in length is so small and don´t make the ship bigger (I mean public spaces) Normally when people talk about ships lenghtening thay are talking about extra 20-30 meters
Just FYI, When Paloma was sailed as Dimitriy Shostakovich in the mid 80s. On Hauptdeck cabin's configuration is almost identical though On Mitteldeck Cabins #480-#499/midships inside cabins and #433-#461/Portside cabins were not sold at the time.Paloma was renovated in 1991 and modernized in 2000.
[ 05-03-2005: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]
Night Club on Boat Deck
Music Saloon on Saloon Deck
quote:Originally posted by flotsam'n jetsam:Thanks for the good information guys! I am still surprised though as to why a ship that is designed and looks exactly like a ferry was not a ferry in the beginning of her life and was converted to one afterwards! .-ata
Are you now talking about Georg Ots? Maybe those ships looked like a car-ferries because before GO-class Soviet shipping lines ordered another class of ships from poland. they were known as Pomerania- class and I think all of them was full car-ferries.
IMO Georg ots and hers sisters were designed the same way as Pomerania-class. But If we talk about GO we have to remember that there wasn´t much car-passengers going from Finland to Estonia or other way round, and the predecessor of GO was only for passengers.
heres link to the Pomerania-class of ships:
Fakta om Fartyg - Pomerania
and Simplon postcards-page of Georg Ots:
Simplon Postcards - Georg Ots
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