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Beezo
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posted 05-26-2005 08:03 PM      Profile for Beezo   Author's Homepage   Email Beezo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey everyone, I'm starting this thread because I noticed a lot of things are getting criss-crossed between threads on each ships...so heres a combo for ya!

I found this segment on maritimematters.com and thought it was interesting...


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And, of course, the SS NORWAY (ex FRANCE) has finally left Bremerhaven under tow of the DE DA to Port Klang, Malaysia via the Cape of Good Hope. On her way out, there was a meeting of the old and new, much like when the brand new FRANCE passed the soon-to-be scrapped LIBERTE in 1961. This time, the role of dowager was given to the former FRANCE, looking very elegant without her two cumbersome bow tenders LITTLE NORWAY I and II. The role of newcomer has been assumed by NCL's somewhat ungainly PRIDE OF AMERICA, whose external design is certainly based more on economics than aesthetics.

Now the pundits speculate about possible piracy as NORWAY ultimately plods through the unfriendly seas of the West African coast (remember SEA, ex GRIPSHOLM, which was raided by looters on her final tow?) and Malaysia (notorious for its pirate-infested waters) since she is such a large and slow target. Many ask if she will make it round the horn, whose surging winter waters claimed BELOFIN-1 (ex BRITANIS), SUN (ex SHALOM), and SEA. (To add to the potential irony, DE DA was the tug bringing CONSTITUTION across the Pacific to Asian breakers when she sank. Others wonder if NORWAY will suddenly divert her itinerary to Alang or Chittagong at the last minute and if that is the real intent of this voyage, having duped European environmentalists in a similar but much bigger way than the KONG FREDERICK IX. To quell this rumor, there are some firm reports from Port Klang that NORWAY is, indeed, expected for a visit to the shipyard there. But, still others will ask, what will really become of NORWAY if she does continue to exist? Will she be a training ship for future cruise ship employees, a floating casino, an hotel? Whatever happens, Maritime Matters will keep you posted....

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~Brian


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Jack McCoy
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posted 05-31-2005 04:46 PM      Profile for Jack McCoy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting additional photos have been posted on the Lloyd Werft website of the Norway leaving and the POA arriving at Bremerhaven. Unbelievable that the ugly floating motel is the keeper and the Norway is being towed away.


http://www.lloydwerft.com/e/auftraege/abgeschlossen/norway.htm


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-31-2005 05:19 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sure that are towing the wrong ship away?

Image: LLoyd Werft

Thanks for sharing Jack.


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PamM
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posted 05-31-2005 05:37 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks like there's a tug pulling forward and astern on POA, perhaps trying to stretch her bow out?

Pam


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r.fiebig
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posted 05-31-2005 05:37 PM      Profile for r.fiebig   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello everybody,

as I was away for several days, this took longer than anticipated, but my photo galleries of the "Norway's" farewell from Bremerhaven and "Pride of America's" departure for sea trials (as well as her return) have now been published:

http://www.ruderhaus.de/ncl-norway-farewell/index.htm

http://www.ruderhaus.de/ncla-poam-trials/index.htm

As always, English picture descriptions will appear when pointing the mouse cursor at the full-sized pictures.


Best,

Raoul


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Onno
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posted 05-31-2005 05:43 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nice stuff as always Raoul,

Your wide angled pictures suite Norway perfectly, but I’m afraid that a wide angle perspective can’t fix POA’s looks .

Onno


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Waynaro
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posted 05-31-2005 06:14 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great pictures Raoul. I bet it was very emotional watching the grande belle lady leave ...
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PamM
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posted 05-31-2005 06:22 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fabulous Raoul, many thanks for those.
Pam

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DAMBROSI
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posted 05-31-2005 07:33 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Indeed many thanks Raoul...a man after my own heart....lovely photos Great angles too.
As a past passenger who sailed her 3 times, like me I got every Kodak moment possible and thank you Raoul for doing the same.....

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BigUFan
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posted 05-31-2005 10:28 PM      Profile for BigUFan   Author's Homepage   Email BigUFan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow. I can imagine that must have been a very emotional moment for the Norway/France's legions of admirers. It's sad to see her go. She's such a stately vessel to behold.
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