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vikingcrown
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posted 06-02-2005 11:29 PM      Profile for vikingcrown     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Could someone be kind enough to share some photos of the Queen Elizabeth's public rooms after her 1965 refit?
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posted 06-03-2005 12:16 AM      Profile for vikingcrown     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From that picture of the Midships Bar, in black and white, one is not able to comprehend what the ship's decor looked like. I've been told the rooms were filled with gaudy colors and some with plastic flowers.
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posted 06-03-2005 12:23 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just deleted previous thread because the timetable printed for Jully 1965 and onward.

The refit was completed in the spring of 1966.

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posted 06-03-2005 12:59 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The new Midships bar's decor was similar to the decor of a mid-range hotel of that era. It featured faux windows covered with shutters that were back lit w/tied back drapes. This room was designed as a completely new space and along with the tacky design treatments added did not compliment the ship's original late Deco interiors.
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posted 06-03-2005 01:02 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by vikingcrown:
Could someone be kind enough to share some photos of the Queen Elizabeth's public rooms after her 1965 refit?

Check out the Dover publication 'Picture History of the Cunard Line' by Bill Miller. It features a photo of the new Midships bar along with alterations made to other Cunarders in the mid-1960s.


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posted 06-03-2005 02:18 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

This room was designed as a completely new space and along with the tacky design treatments added did not compliment the ship's original late Deco interiors.


Was it located next to salon or Smoke Room?

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posted 06-03-2005 07:18 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

Was it located next to salon or Smoke Room?

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The Midships Bar replaced the ballroom after the 1965-66 refit. The new bar was forward of the 1st class smoking room and aft of the 1st class main lounge (or Queen Elizabeth Lounge) on Promenade deck. The bar was decorated in green leather, yellow and orange with simple columns supporting the simple high white ceiling. The curved green leather bar was positioned aft w/dark rust-orange bar stools. The primary color combination used in the other 1st class public rooms were blues, dark red/rust, cream along with plenty of dark wood veneers w/nickel accents and fixtures.


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posted 06-03-2005 10:04 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

The Midships Bar replaced the ballroom after the 1965-66 refit. The new bar was forward of the 1st class smoking room and aft of the 1st class main lounge (or Queen Elizabeth Lounge) on Promenade deck. The bar was decorated in green leather, yellow and orange with simple columns supporting the simple high white ceiling. The curved green leather bar was positioned aft w/dark rust-orange bar stools. The primary color combination used in the other 1st class public rooms were blues, dark red/rust, cream along with plenty of dark wood veneers w/nickel accents and fixtures.


There was a Writing Room(Portside adjacent to Salon), a Nursery(Starboard next to Lounge), a Salon with dance floor in Bewtween 1st class Lounge and 1st class Smoke Room and also smokestake.

Did Cunard removed a salon only?

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posted 06-04-2005 12:57 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On the deck plans I have (one issued in the early 1960s and one in 1966) shows the 1st class lounge is followed by a writing room and ladies lavatory on the port side and a nursery on the starboard side. A starboard side corridor connected the main lounge w/the Midships Bar. The Midships Bar ran the width of that deck between the glass enclosed promenade decks.
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posted 06-04-2005 01:12 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
On the deck plans I have (one issued in the early 1960s and one in 1966) shows the 1st class lounge is followed by a writing room and ladies lavatory on the port side and a nursery on the starboard side. A starboard side corridor connected the main lounge w/the Midships Bar. The Midships Bar ran the width of that deck between the glass enclosed promenade decks.

The salon with dance floor replaced by Midships Bar and was extended to full width as like as Garden Lounges.

Do you find a dance floor in the Midships Bar and any more changes in your dck plans?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

The salon with dance floor replaced by Midships Bar and was extended to full width as like as Garden Lounges.

Do you find a dance floor in the Midships Bar and any more changes in your dck plans?

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The plans I have from the early 1960s still show the ballroom. The plans issued after the 1965-66 refit show the space as the Midships Bar. The basic floorplan along w/window placement was retained according to these two deck plans. Of course the furniture placement along with the new bar are shown in the newer deck plans. The 1965-66 plans show no dance floor in the Midships Bar as well as no room extensions (similar the the twin Garden Lounges off the smoking room) outward towards the sides of the ship. It is possible that she was altered again after 1966 but I do not have those deck plans.


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posted 06-04-2005 08:06 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I read that the salon was a very decorative room with walls of exquisite quilted satin, gilded ceiling mirrors and slenders pillars and photo shown Grand Piano on the orchestra Platform.

The QM1's Observation Lounge and Cocktail Bar on Promenade Deck is shown in the First class deck plan(1/53) though deck plans of Tourist Class(9/64) is shown the Observation Lounge and Cocktail Bar(on Promenade Deck) and Garden Lounge(on Main Deck).

The QE1's Observation Lounge is shown in the deck plans of 1st class(L.P. 39/181).

I read the twin level observation lounge which had for many years afforded a sophisticated view of great bow plunging into the waters of Atlantic had been converted in to a simple pub

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posted 06-04-2005 10:48 PM      Profile for vikingcrown     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When the Midships Bar was added for first, the observation bar was reassigned for third class. The same was done on Queen Mary, where the midships bar replaced the long galley.
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posted 06-04-2005 10:56 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by vikingcrown:
When the Midships Bar was added for first,. the observation bar was reassigned for third class. The same was done on Queen Mary, where the midships bar replaced the long galley.

More info can be found in the timetable below(came from Queen Elizabeth in the 60's)

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lasuvidaboy,

Have you seen the photo of First class Salon(Ball Room)? if not, Can you swap of your midships Bar's photo by P.M.?

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