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elad
First Class Passenger
Member # 5150

posted 06-20-2005 07:26 AM

hi all
i allways wonder who is command on the mission of
picking the right fornitures (chairs , loungers , sofas , cabinets , etc) to each ship .
do the shipyard built it in its workshops? , if no so which fornitures makers have the sorces of producing such a huge demand of fornitures?
are there high class ,quality fornitures companies?

Elad

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 06-20-2005 11:34 AM

In the old days the furniture of the liners were custom designed an build by carpenters (just like the rest of the ships interiors) today it is often (basically said) picked out of catalogues from large furniture manufacturers. The team responsible for the interior design is a medium that helps determining the taste of the client (cruise line) and search around where to find the furniture matching that taste.

If furniture was build and designed purely for the ship then cruise companies would have a problem if chairs get broken and needed to be replaced. Nowadays you can order more from the warehouse of the furniture manufacturer where they were ordered.

The art is some what different, next to picking catalogue art there are also some pieces art made on commission and thus custom designed by the artist for a specific ship.

Time and efficiency has caught up on the idea of custom building and of craftsmanship. It simply takes too long to produce. Ordering existing furniture or letting it be produced by an external company safes time and money.

Onno

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 06-20-2005 11:54 AM

Elad,

Tillburg Interiors, Joe Farcus, and VFD Franz Dingmanns are 3 of the best known ship interior designers.

There are a whole lot of rules, codes, and regulations for ships that do not exist on land.

Even when cruise lines hire celebrity decorators these 2 firms end up on the job too since it takes a lot of time to learn the ship vocabulary.

In the old days Gustavo Pulitzer Finale, Nino Zoncada, Dennis Inchbald[sp], Charles Mevis, and Dorothy Marckwald blazed the trails for the daring spaces of the classic liners.

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 06-20-2005 05:40 PM

michael inchbald and dennis lennon actually.

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62france
First Class Passenger
Member # 4038

posted 06-21-2005 01:51 AM

you were talking about wheather furniture is mass produced or produced just for ships. I remember looking at pictures of olympic and Titanic's cabins, a lot of 1st and 2nd class cabins had wash cabinets, with tip basins that could be folded down for use. It also had a mirror and space on the side for cups. Anyways, I thought that was just a olympic and titanic feature, but looking thru other ship books I noticed that other ships had a simliar wash basin, even the same. I wonder if it was something that was made especiall for ships and white star just picked it out of a catalogue. I noticed that france had a steel dresser that was shared in other 1st class and tourist cabins

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Peter P
First Class Passenger
Member # 374

posted 06-21-2005 04:51 PM

They are not Ikea furnitures

There are companies doing these for ships, hotels and public spaces. I think that some furnitures are also designed just to some certain cruise ship series / company.

There are some special requiments like fire safety and they must really suffer a lot usage. I just read about some finnish company who was specialized to produce fabrics to cruise ships.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 06-21-2005 05:03 PM

I know about an Austrian company providing curtains etc. - they told me it was really hard to get involved with cruise ships as there are many things to be considered - like fire safety.

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elad
First Class Passenger
Member # 5150

posted 06-21-2005 05:26 PM

hi all
thanks for your postings ,

i read recently about the QM2 furnitures that have been broken during a cruise (if i'm not wrong , the furnitures were actully chairs belong to the queen or princess grill restaurant ) i wonder which company built the QM2 furnitures?
any way , to me the QM2's furnitures seems very strong compfortable and elgant

Elad

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vikingcrown
First Class Passenger
Member # 3437

posted 06-21-2005 08:00 PM

When Queen Mary steamed to Long Beach in 1967, most of her furnishings were still the 1936 custom originals, although most chairs had been recovered or in some cases refashioned. Nevertheless, most of her tables, draperies, and rugs were the originals.

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 06-21-2005 10:02 PM

Rembrandterdam's furnishings were original but recovered.

The furnishings on display at Christies from the BigU are pretty tattered; same for the QE2 Columbia restaurant chairs.

To restore them would lose their value.

SS United States

QE2

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Ocean Liners
First Class Passenger
Member # 4013

posted 06-22-2005 04:15 AM

Argentina Maru(1939)'s Suite "Fuji" was designed by Osaka Takashimaya(department store)

Prior to being built Argentina Maru, as for the luxurious part of the Passenger ships interior, Shipyards had ordered to produce a parts of furnitures in France and England and assembled in Japan.

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 06-22-2005 04:19 AM

Restoring is a big NO with antiques (or not yet antiques) collectors, one need to see it’s age and wear. This way you can see the object has been used and enjoyed. Restoring is only necessary if there is something broken.

I heard a funny story about a man wanting to sell an old leather suitcase via an antiques dealer, the day before he thought he would give it a good clean so that the dealer would not have to do it. Well the suitcase shined like a star and looked brand new, but the antique dealer could now only sell it at a quarter of the initially estimated price. Simply because people buying antiques want a well lived look and not something shining and new.

Onno

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