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Linerrich
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posted 10-26-2005 08:59 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have posted a number of rare, color photos of AQUITANIA, from my collection. Unfortunately I cannot credit the original photographer(s), who is unknown to me. The unmarked photos were inherited over 20 years ago from third party.

It's fascinating to see such an old ship in color--it really brings her to life for us generations who never saw a pre-WWI vessel in person!

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Johan
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posted 10-26-2005 09:07 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Many many thanks.
These are fabulous and fascinating pictures.
Very rarely you see good color pictures (no drawings or paintings) of the old liners, and this is a cornucopia.

The distance created by B&W pictures is much lessened.

Those funnels are impressive, as is the bow picture.

J


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posted 10-26-2005 09:14 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These pictures are really awesome - thank you for posting them!
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posted 10-26-2005 10:17 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You don't know where they were taken, do you?
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Linerrich
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posted 10-26-2005 10:26 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
You don't know where they were taken, do you?

No, I don't know where--there seem to be at least two different pier locations (one docked starboard-side to, and the other port-side to) as well as several "at sea" photos. I believe she sailed from Liverpool to Halifax in those years.

Rich


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bulbousbow
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posted 10-26-2005 10:51 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very valuable photos you've got there Rich. Wonder where the negatives are?

Do you have Photoshop or similar software? Because you can eliminate the magenta colour cast in most of the images.

The computer I am on while writing this does not have the right image manipulation software, so unfortunately I cannot show you what I mean, but if I find time tomorrow I'll clean up a couple to show you, unless of course someone else does it in the meantime.

Thanks for posting them.

******

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Thad
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posted 10-26-2005 11:40 AM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think this is what bulbousbow means. I used software on one of the images of the funnels. Here is the altered image

Versus the Original:


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posted 10-26-2005 11:57 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes Thad, that's what I meant. Looks much better. The whites are white and the sky is bluer. Thanks.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 10-26-2005 12:11 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very impressive pics! I forget how limited outdoor space was onboard the pre-WW1 liners w/all the ventilators, funnels and other equiptment. Except for some minor exterior alterations to her superstructure, I felt like I was transported back to 1914.
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Linerrich
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posted 10-26-2005 12:14 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bulbousbow:
Yes Thad, that's what I meant. Looks much better. The whites are white and the sky is bluer. Thanks.

******

Cheers


Being color blind, I don't see the difference, but thanks for improving the quality for the majority who can see it!

These photos are from the 1940s, so I don't know if they have changed over the years, or if that is how the coloring originally was.

Rich


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Tom Burke
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posted 10-26-2005 01:12 PM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
These photos are from the 1940s, so I don't know if they have changed over the years, or if that is how the coloring originally was.

The reason I asked about the location of the photos was precisely because of the age of the pictures. Colour film was very 'slow' at that time - even 100ASA was undreamed of, I think. So these shots were probably taken with film rated at maybe 12 or 20 ASA. The point about this is that exposures would have been quite lengthy, but that brighter sunlight - such one might get further south - would reduce the exposure time quite a bit.

This is why colour shots from the 40s do tend to show lots of sunshine. It wasn't that the weather was better then, it's just that they didn't even try to take colour photos on a grey day. And a typical Liverpool winter day would be impossible...


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Linerrich
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posted 10-26-2005 02:15 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:

The reason I asked about the location of the photos was precisely because of the age of the pictures. The point about this is that exposures would have been quite lengthy, but that brighter sunlight - such one might get further south - would reduce the exposure time quite a bit.

... a typical Liverpool winter day would be impossible...


Thanks for the info, Tom, that's very interesting. Actually the AQUITANIA did also sail from Southampton on her "austerity" trips to Halifax--but I don't know if that's far enough South to make a difference in photo quality!

Rich


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posted 10-26-2005 02:47 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

Being color blind, I don't see the difference, but thanks for improving the quality for the majority who can see it!

These photos are from the 1940s, so I don't know if they have changed over the years, or if that is how the coloring originally was.

Rich


The sky looks much better-not purple and the Cunard red on the funnels look sharp. The rust stains on the ventilators also comes out. Great job!!


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posted 10-26-2005 10:25 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Very impressive pics! I forget how limited outdoor space was onboard the pre-WW1 liners w/all the ventilators, funnels and other equiptment.
Except for some minor exterior alterations to her superstructure,....


The third class promenade deck(black hull) was expanded almost the same as above deck though this photo shown the half of the promenade deck was fitted with portholes.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

The third class promenade deck(black hull) was expanded almost the same as above deck though this photo shown the half of the promenade deck was fitted with portholes.


Very interesting. I wonder if that alteration was done to enlarge the 2nd class dining room during the war. That dining room was just forward of the 3rd class promenade.


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posted 10-26-2005 11:43 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

Very interesting. I wonder if that alteration was done to enlarge the 2nd class dining room during the war. That dining room was just forward of the 3rd class promenade.


There was the foyer just forward of the third class promenade and stairways led up to "A" deck.

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posted 10-27-2005 07:16 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Rich.

And thanks to the man/woman who shot the pictures.

I thought i dreamed whene i saw those color pictures. I never saw color pictures frome a prewar ww1 liner. It reminds me reading that in here lastyears it was very very difficult to maitain this Grand Dame. In here last years a captain told you cane puch youre finger through the steel frome the funnels.

Great pictures of a remarkeble vessel.

Greetings Ben.
Rich i hope you have not encounter to much damage.


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posted 10-27-2005 01:54 PM      Profile for philcheese2001   Email philcheese2001   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
With regard to AQUITANIA's post war sailings. Her route was Southampton = Halifax. In those days I lived within a 15 minute walk of the Liverpool Dock Road and I am sure she did not use Liverpool. I would have been down there in a flash had she so done. In the late 40's , early 50's we used to get CARONIA & MAURETANIA (II) in for their annual refit in Gladstone dry dock. Other than those 2 we would get the intermediate ships such as SAMARIA, SCYTHIA and the Ash Can (ASCANIA). The smaller pair MEDIA & PARTHIA also plus vessels of the Cunard cargo fleet.

Phil.


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quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
Thanks Rich.

And thanks to the man/woman who shot the pictures.

I thought i dreamed whene i saw those color pictures. I never saw color pictures frome a prewar ww1 liner. It reminds me reading that in here lastyears it was very very difficult to maitain this Grand Dame. In here last years a captain told you cane puch youre finger through the steel frome the funnels.

Great pictures of a remarkeble vessel.

Greetings Ben.
Rich i hope you have not encounter to much damage.


Reminds me of when QM1 was rebuilt in the late 1960s, her original steel funnels caved in when they were lifted off and placed on the dockside. The city of Long Beach had intended on using them again after cleaning and painting but they were nearly rusted through and could not be reinstalled. All that was holding them together were layers of paint.


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posted 10-27-2005 04:49 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
All that was holding them together were layers of paint.

Thank God for paint


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posted 10-27-2005 09:29 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The threads quoted from Post WW2 Aquitania

quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

The Ministry of Transport operated her, relocating troops, war brides, and POWs, until March 1948.

Rich


On 1 April 1948 she was released by the Ministry of Transport and returned to Cunard.
After a short overhaul,the Canadian Government chartered her for a series of 11 voyages between Southampton and Halifax.

quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Liners:

The Canadian Goverment paid Cunard a fixed sum to maintain the ship in the Canadian service and to provide an option for further voyages. Up to 1,150 berths were to be reserved for the Canadian emigration authorities, and company was free to sell any spare berths on their own account.

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posted 10-27-2005 10:21 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I now have viewed both these images on my Mac which I use for photo imaging. The original does not look that bad compared when I viewed it the other night on my PC. It still looks a little cold but there isn't a lot of magenta in the image. I can only put it down to the fact the monitor on my PC is not 100% calibrated... I also see a watermark. Was it there before?

[ 10-27-2005: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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quote:
Originally posted by bulbousbow:
I now have viewed both these images on my Mac which I use for photo imaging. The original does not look that bad compared when I viewed it the other night on my PC. It still looks a little cold but there isn't a lot of magenta in the image. I can only put it down to the fact the monitor on my PC is not 100% calibrated... I also see a watermark. Was it there before?

Actually, I updated the photos for Rich and added the watermark since the pictures seemed to be getting a lot of attention. It seems there are very few color image of Aquitania anywhere...

Joe at TravelPage.com


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quote:
Joe wrote:
Actually, I updated the photos for Rich and added the watermark since the pictures seemed to be getting a lot of attention. It seems there are very few color image of Aquitania anywhere...

There's definitely a copyright issue here. Good idea Joe.

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and it IS a treasure

J


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