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kaiser
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posted 03-17-2006 09:00 PM      Profile for kaiser   Email kaiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It has always amazed me that there have been no movies made regarding any real life dramas at sea other than about Titanic.

I fully understand the incredible nature of the tragedy and how it was a "perfect" story for Hollywood to tell and retell several times. I just feel that there are quite a few other events that were equally dramatic and would make for very powerful movies.

Lusitania or Andrea Doria just to name two.

I think, for example, a movie about the Andrea Doria, would be amazing ... a beautiful ship ... famous people aboard ... a collision at sea while passengers are dancing to the song "Arrivaderci, Roma" (ironically) ... dramatic rescue by the Ile de France ... Linda Morgan's miracle survival ...

Sure this ship isn't as well know as Titanic, but she is known and the story has such drama that it is begging for the big screen.

Any other true ocean liner/cruise ship stories fellow Cruise Talkers would like to see on screen?

And any thoughts on why no other story has made it to film?

Regards, Kaiser


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Ernst
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posted 03-17-2006 09:27 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If one can make a movie about the Titanic a movie about the Andrea Doria should easily be possible.
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Linerdan
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posted 03-17-2006 09:48 PM      Profile for Linerdan   Email Linerdan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I totally agree and would love to see a movie about another ship like the Doria or Empress even.To us rivet counters, the movie is a whole new experiance on the big screen to see our passion come to life.

Unfortunely for the remainder of the viewing public, its just another big ship sinking.

Dan


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Ernst
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posted 03-17-2006 09:51 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, actually I did not say that I would love to see that - nevertheless.

[ 03-17-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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Linerrich
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posted 03-18-2006 09:09 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sure, it's possible to make a movie based on the ANDREA DORIA, LUSITANIA, etc., but it would just come across as fiction, since most of the public is unfamiliar with those specific ships and incidents. There have been a number of documentaries about real ship disasters, with recreations of the characters and events.

But Hollywood would rather make a completely fictional vehicle for their ship disaster flicks, such as "POSEIDON", which doesn't restrict them to the facts.

I think one of the best ship sinking movies is "The Last Voyage." If you haven't seen it lately, it's easily found on VHS and DVD--some GREAT footage of the ILE DE FRANCE and her public rooms, and you are literally on the Boat Deck as she is sliding under water. The ship was only partially sunk for the film, but it really gives you a feel for what it would be like to be in such a situation.

Rich


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 03-18-2006 09:12 AM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would love to see a movie on the Andrea Doria. I had just been thinking about that a few days ago. I love ocean liner disaster movies,and there are very few of them. I can just picture people sliding across the dance foor as she's rammed by the Stockholm!
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Italianliners
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posted 03-18-2006 12:38 PM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They could make a movie about the Falklands Islands war showing the QEII and the Canberra as troop ships, maybe the ships would not be the main focus but they could apear on the movie showing the life of the soldiers onboard feelig like they were in a cruise during the sea days...

OK, IT'S JUST A STUPID IDEA!

Italianliners


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Linerrich
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posted 03-18-2006 01:14 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Italianliners:
They could make a movie about the Falklands Islands war showing the QEII and the Canberra as troop ships, maybe the ships would not be the main focus but they could apear on the movie showing the life of the soldiers onboard feelig like they were in a cruise during the sea days...

Here we are, Tea Time in the Queen's Lounge:

3 times around the Boat Deck make 1 mile?:

And back just in time for ShowTime in the Double-Down Room:


Rich


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Italianliners
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posted 03-18-2006 02:20 PM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, you did NOT feel like were in a cruise during the sea days...

How i am stupid!

Italianliners


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Linerrich
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posted 03-18-2006 02:58 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Italianliners:
OK, you did NOT feel like were in a cruise during the sea days...

How i am stupid!

Italianliners


No, not stupid at all! It was just a far different experience for the troops on board than for passengers, but what an interesting idea. And it gave me an excuse to dig out these photos which I bought on board 24 years ago!

Rich


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PamM
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posted 03-18-2006 03:21 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great postcards to have Rich. Italianliners there were 3000 troops aboard QE2, quite a squash I imagine with all the supplies. She only went as far as South Georgia where her troops were transferred to the more 'disposable' Canberra.

Pam


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Matts
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posted 03-18-2006 04:07 PM      Profile for Matts     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd say Andrea Doria, Lusitania and Bremen (escaping from New York).

There is already one about Estonia that was full of nonsense, but the accompanying documentary was interesting.

Much more controversial would be a business thriller type thing looking at a more ruthless side of the cruise business.


Poseidon although fiction, is at least inspired by reality from Mr Gallico's travels on Queen Mary when she rolled alot.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 03-18-2006 07:49 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

I think one of the best ship sinking movies is "The Last Voyage." If you haven't seen it lately, it's easily found on VHS and DVD--some GREAT footage of the ILE DE FRANCE and her public rooms, and you are literally on the Boat Deck as she is sliding under water. The ship was only partially sunk for the film, but it really gives you a feel for what it would be like to be in such a situation.

Rich



Rich: Watch that scene again it when they show the final scene on the 'boat deck'. It is actually a set as the shallow water the Ile was sunk in only went a little deeper than the 1st class dining room windows. The faux bulkheads (most likely plywood) on that boat deck set are moving back and forth w/the intense rush of water as the actors prepare to jump into the 'ocean'. One of my favorites scenes in that picture is when they enter the fabulous 1st class dining room and water is pouring through the open portholes.


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kaiser
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posted 03-18-2006 10:36 PM      Profile for kaiser   Email kaiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

I think one of the best ship sinking movies is "The Last Voyage." If you haven't seen it lately, it's easily found on VHS and DVD


I love that movie too and have it on VHS. I wasn't aware it was out on DVD. In fact I just looked for it on Amazon and couldn't find a DVD version.

Anyways, despite the general public not being as familiar to the ships as about Titanic, the stories of the Andrea Doria and Lusitania and others are so dramatic that I'm sure that properly made they would be as compelling of a story as any movie out there.

As J.S.S. Normandie said, the scene of the first class passengers dancing to "Arrivaderci, Roma" as the Stockholm hits would be very powerful. Or seeing the Lusitania's passengers swimming in the ocean as the great ship rolls over on them (not to be morbid, but that scene would show the horror of the sinking like the scene where Titanic goes perpendicular prior to her sinking in James Cameron's version). Or the mass of humanity desperately trying to board the Wilhelm Gustloff as the Red Army advances towards them.

Amongst the most compelling stories in modern human history have occured on ocean liners, and only Titanic's story has been told.

How many famous, and not so famous WWII battles have been immortalized on the big screen? How many Civil War stories, political intrigue stories, famous crimes, etc. etc.

I just think that there are so many true life dramas on the great liners just waiting to be put to film. Any other ideas on movies and what scenes would be shot?

Regards, Kaiser


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johns
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posted 03-19-2006 12:20 AM      Profile for johns   Author's Homepage   Email johns   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i think there are 2 german movies about the sinking of yhe wilhelm gustloff,does anyone know the titles or how to obtain them on dvd or vhs?also there was a nazi era film about the titanic filmed aboard the cap arcona that the germans made as a semi propoganda film that would be interesting if it was avalible with subtitles.
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Maasdam
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posted 03-19-2006 05:25 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Great postcards to have Rich. Italianliners there were 3000 troops aboard QE2, quite a squash I imagine with all the supplies. She only went as far as South Georgia where her troops were transferred to the more 'disposable' Canberra.

Pam


Pam not so manny as on the liners in ww2 much smaller liners as Nieuw Amsterdam and Mauretania carried sometimes up 8.000 to 10.000 soldiers and they where half the size of the QE2. Maybe that would a nice background fore a movie.

Also i would ussed the Canberra because she was the real hero. The QE2 never came in the real danger zone, as Canberra. Canberra was also attacked fiew times (happy never a succes)

this could be an interresting movie the fire and sinking a/b the ms. Prinsendam in 1980. Happy every one surfived, but it would be something to see the fire swepping through the ship. And passengers/crew escapping the fire.

Greetings Ben.

[ 03-19-2006: Message edited by: Maasdam ]


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 03-19-2006 09:24 AM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by johns:
there was a nazi era film about the titanic filmed aboard the cap arcona that the germans made as a semi propoganda film that would be interesting if it was avalible with subtitles.

I saw that once they show it from time to time on the Turner Classic Movie channel.


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Linerrich
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posted 03-19-2006 11:21 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by johns:
i think there are 2 german movies about the sinking of yhe wilhelm gustloff,does anyone know the titles or how to obtain them on dvd or vhs?also there was a nazi era film about the titanic filmed aboard the cap arcona that the germans made as a semi propoganda film that would be interesting if it was avalible with subtitles.

The German film TITANIC, of 1943, is available on DVD--you can get it many places but here is the link for the distributor:

http://www.kino.com/video/item.php?film_id=709

There's a lot of artistic license in this proproganda film--the British and Americans are all portrayed as money-grubbing villains, while the one German officer on board (!) is the real hero.

The DVD has great special features, such as a 1912 newsreel and a later White Star publicity film about the OLYMPIC.

Rich


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Rex
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posted 03-19-2006 03:36 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was that crappy TV movie about the Britannic made a few years ago - LOTS of artistic license.
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sslewis
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posted 03-22-2006 01:21 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a nice idea!
Indeed, the cruise business is full of creepy tales!
ssPoseidon for instance was a mix of Andrea Doria(the girl trapped under the bulkhead) and many more real liner crashes!
I have seen some interesting TV documentaries on aircrashes, and not so good on liners/ferries.
I read some interesting facts about Andrea Doria, whose deformed image was used in "Ghost".
One of the passenger was actually Cary Grant's wife(they had met on the rmsQueen Elizabeth and she was in "Next to no time", made entirely onboard Lizzie).
Incredibly, she was travelling with another actress(Strangers on a Train)!
Come on Hollywood!

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Frosty 4
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posted 03-22-2006 03:18 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone for Achille Loro. I think that's the name. Where terrorists raided the ship and killed a passenger. ??
Frosty 4

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Maasdam
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posted 03-22-2006 03:45 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
Anyone for Achille Loro. I think that's the name. Where terrorists raided the ship and killed a passenger. ??
Frosty 4

The Achille Lauro hijack. The story is filmed fore t.v. Saw it in the early '90's. It was shot a/b the ship herself. Maybe the fire would be interresting.

Greetings Ben.


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 03-22-2006 04:01 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about the Michelangelo event. Not that much excitement, but a subplot could be added, maybe a spy onboard. It might be interesting watching someone slide back and forth across the floors of the empty public rooms.

Or how about a movie on the Normandie ending with someone going back onboard during her conversion to retrieve a hidden item(microfilm?) and getting caught in the blaze.

A movie based on the book Futility could be good.


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kaiser
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posted 03-22-2006 04:12 PM      Profile for kaiser   Email kaiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:

Anyone for Achille Loro. I think that's the name. Where terrorists raided the ship and killed a passenger. ??


There were actually 2 made-for-TV movies on the Achille Lauro.

One was called "The Hijacking of the Achille Lauro" (and later renamed "Sea of Terror"). It starred Karl Malden and Lee Grant as Mr. and Mrs. Klinghoffer and was filmed aboard an old, Greek ship (can't recall the name - but looked NOTHING like the Achille Lauro).

The second one was far superior and was called "Voyage of Terrror: The Achille Lauro Affair". It starred Burt Lancaster and Eva Marie Saint as the Klinghoffers and was filmed aboard the blue lady herself. It was by no means a perfect movie but I think it told the story well. I hope they release it on DVD one day (T.V. movies sometimes get put on DVD).

Regards, Kaiser

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posted 03-22-2006 04:25 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kaiser:

There were actually 2 made-for-TV movies on the Achille Lauro.

One was called "The Hijacking of the Achille Lauro" (and later renamed "Sea of Terror"). It starred Karl Malden and Lee Grant as Mr. and Mrs. Klinghoffer and was filmed aboard an old, Greek ship (can't recall the name - but looked NOTHING like the Achille Lauro).

The second one was far superior and was called "Voyage of Terrror: The Achille Lauro Affair". It starred Burt Lancaster and Eva Marie Saint as the Klinghoffers and was filmed aboard the blue lady herself. It was by no means a perfect movie but I think it told the story well. I hope they release it on DVD one day (T.V. movies sometimes get put on DVD).

Regards, Kaiser

[ 03-22-2006: Message edited by: kaiser ]


Thanks Kaiser i saw the second Voyage of Terror.

Greetings Ben.


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