Welcome to Cruise Talk the Internet's most popular discussion forum dedicated to cruising. Stop by Cruise Talk anytime to post a message or find out what your fellow passengers and industry insiders are saying about a particular ship, cruise line or destination.
>>> Reader Reviews >>> CruisePage.com Photo Gallery >>> Join Our Cruise Club.
Latest News...Disney Cruise Line announced today that the honorary role of "godparent" for its new ship, the Disney Treasure, will be held by The Walt Disney Company cast, crew, Imagineers and employees around the world. The profound declaration is a heartfelt tribute to the more than 200,000 dreamers and doers who make every Disney entertainment, vacation and at-home experience possible. Disney Cruise Line is proud to celebrate...
Latest News...Carnival Cruise Line is adding to its line-up of 2026/27 deployment with sailings from New York City on Carnival Venezia, and more Long Beach sailings on Carnival Firenze and Carnival Radiance. “Our two Carnival Fun Italian Style ships offer great options from the east and west coasts, conveniently connecting New York and Long Beach to popular destinations, while delivering unique experiences on board...
Latest News...Vacationers are in for more ways to make memories across Royal Caribbean’s latest combination of tropical and Northeast 2026-27 getaways. The lineup of 12 Royal Caribbean ships rounds out a variety of adventures across Florida, Texas, Puerto Rico and the Northeast for every type of family and vacationer to get away any time of year. Crown & Anchor Society loyalty members...
To bring a seventy year old ocean liner half way across the world is madness.(it's literally half way)
Her engines have been removed, and she is probably unsteady. And they want to bring her across the Atlantic? You saw happened to America and Caronia. I hope nothing comes of this.
[ 03-27-2006: Message edited by: J.S.S.Normandie ]
Why is she not stable?
They have been towing the over 40 year old France/Noway around for a while now. No problem...
quote:Originally posted by AleksNorway:Why insane? Why is she not stable? They have been towing the over 40 year old France/Noway around for a while now. No problem...
She would be unstable from having the wieght provided by her engines removed. Also, she has not been maintained for use in open water for thirty years! And theyr'e not just talking about open water, around South America and northeast across the Atlantic. The America and Caronia were only about three quarters her length and they both broke free of thier tow lines.(although it may have been intentional) One of the reasons Nomadic hasn't made the comparatively short journey to Bellfast is beacause of structural integrity. I could be dangerous to have her in open water. And she is one tenth QM's size!It's really a bad idea.
Ben.
But seriously I do agree. She seems to be being neglected. Most people are not liner fans so she probably isn't the most popular hotel. There's so many things they could cheaply and easily do that could make them more money.
I wonder if her rate of deterioration might slow down if they did what was done with Minghua? Fill the area around her with soil?Does anyone else think that might be easier on her hull than the salt water? It might also help keep the moisture and help with the rust issues a little. This would have to be easier and cheaper to maintain in the long run.
Any thoughts?
As much as I know Queen Mary has not left her berth for many decaded - what are they doing to take care of the hull? I would be very interested in learning more about that.
quote:Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:Burying her in soil would be so sad. Besides moisture from the soil would cause her to rust too. The best thing for her, I think, is to keep her in California and keep her well maintained. The warm air and lack of snow would help to preserve her just as it does cars.
Salt water is the problem. Cars rust out in the northeast due to the salt spread on roads to melt snow. I agree that the warm fairly dry air in California is most likely better for her than the damp cold of England. As I posted in the past, QM needs a good exterior cleaning and re-spray. A fresh coat of paint on her exterior would do wonders but she still looks better than her final days sailing the North Atlantic 40 years ago. In those days she often was covered w/rust from bow to stern as Cunard was nearly broke and she suffered much deferred upkeep. Her interiors actually do not look that bad for a 70 year old ship that has carried tens of thousands of passengers. As an example of what a good respray could do, look what a few weeks in drydock did for the beautiful Rotterdam V!
Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.3
More Vacation & Cruise Specials...