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Gopal's comments say little to nothing really. He says that the matter has been brought up in Parliament, of course, the thousands of my supporters, and you may have, will have emailed them and this has caused a considerable pressure on them. I hope that it is enough to persuade the court! The ship does not sit in the water and sits on sand. However, at the Alang occasional king tides, she can be made afloat, but it will be a risky business as all her ballast will have to be removed to float and she could topple over if not careful.

The Norwegian campaign seems to have disappeared and they are now looking for other ships for their needs. Club France Prestige is trying hard, but I feel that he left his call too late thus many are not inclined to invest, although all monies are in a special trust account and will be refunded if it does not happen. John Voet, well I have not heard from him for some time although the last time I heard from him he stated that Rashid al Noori in Dubai will make a new offer as soon as the ship is ordered offshore.

My thoughts though are; the court will permit the breaking up, thanks to the many bribes paid and that will be her end. Or, if ordered offshore, her owners will sell her to China to be broken up rather that loose face. The Chinese do not give a damn about asbestos and Greenpeace or the UN can sway them. If she is towed to China, or elsewhere, she could well be lost at sea, an "accident" and the insurance will pay up!

I am sorry, but, I do believe that we will never see her in public hands again, and that I have lost the battle having trusted people too much. My page online will stay as is for the sake of the countless thousands of supporters, but, I feel she gone. I am so sorry to be so blunt, I'd rather it was positive. This campaign has taken a massive toll on my life as I worked up 18 hours a day answering the thousands of emails, writing, speaking to journalists worldwide. Then the pressure of the workload took its toll and I had my stroke, which slowed me down and it still has working far below my capacity. Over the past days I have been very ill, thus no replies to your emails. In addition, this campaign has cost me thousands, and I will not receive a cent from John Voet or others, it was a labour of love.

We will see how it pans out and all we can hope for is a miracle!

Kind regards

Reuben

I had not said anything about the recent health of Reuben after he had his stroke.

However I do know that he has been very sick again as a result of an email I received from his personal assistant last Tuesday.

This has been as a result of him going against his doctors orders and not resting.

He has always been a fighter but his continued working, having been told to rest, has not helped him to recover from the stroke.

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Originally posted by Redlinekid2:
...Doesn't sound like he's confident that the courts will favor our cause. I certainly hope it doesn't come to that. All of our hard work for nothing? I can't accept that...

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Just curious about all this hard work. Other than posting fanciful plans about what could be done if someone with money appears out of nowhere, and making pseudo-libelous claims about the ship's former owners, what work was actually done?

All he does is incite hatred against these people who will have had nothing to do with the original decision. Where were all his buyers when Norway was for sale while in Bremerhaven? Nowhere like him. He's a twit.

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Originally posted by viking109:
Malcolm, You need to remember that the fantasists you said the SS United States would sail again were none other that NCL.

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Second, chances are high that people who SERIOULSY tried to safe this nice ship ARE NOT boasting around like Mr. Reubens.

My comment was not based on assuming that you defended Mr. Reubens. It nevertheless was not only him who tried to bring attention to this subject - personally I think that his contribution was not constructive and possibly harmful for the reputation of the ship enthusiasts community.

One sadly can not travel on the Norway anymore. Her fate has been determined by the boiler explosion some years ago.

But there are still many other old ships out there - and this is certainly a possibility - amongst others - to support these ships.

In the context of this discussion about the Norway one can maybe raise the question how many of all those who are now complaining about the Norway being scrapped have actually been aboard her.

Greetings

There is nothing like having a go at someone when they are sick and not well enough to defend themselves !

Lets hope none of you have a stroke !

Whoever is maintaining the page - and someone is doing that - could also defend himself. Accusing anyone here to 'have a go' at someone who is sick is no defence - this is a lame excuse and very dull.

Also, Mr. Reubens never joined a discussion here.

Cunard Fan, I never said you were defending him. I just wanted to know what you thought he'd actually done.

Ernst, course Reuben has. You just replied to him.

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While they were at it they went after Rembrandterdam and nearly destroyed her her chances for dignified survival.

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