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joe at travelpage
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posted 08-25-2008 02:16 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From tonight's Cruise News:


According to Nakheel, the real estate company in charge of building the development in Dubai where QE2 will end up in November, the former ocean liner will serve as the anchor of a luxury marina development on the eastern trunk side of Palm Jumeirah.

Purchased last year by Nakheel's parent organization Dubai World, QE2 will embark on her ultimate journey from Southampton, England to Dubai in November. Nakheel will commence construction on her eventual home in September.

Plans for the QE2 include its transformation into an ultra-luxury floating hotel, featuring public promenades, retail outlets, cafes and restaurants, as well as a heritage museum displaying artifacts from the QE2 and maritime history.

It will be interesting to see how much of the current QE2 surives the conversion into a "ultra-luxury floating hotel". While ship enthusiasts were hopeful following the initial announcement that stated the project would "...aim to recreate QE2's original interior décor and fittings..." it is unlikely that this can be done while at the same time creating a luxury hotel. One clue as to QE2's future appearance might be found in the initial renderings released by Nakheel, where the converted QE2 bears a striking resemblence to Cunard's Queen Mary 2, with at least three decks of new balconies.

“The arrival of QE2 is one of the most anticipated events of the year and Nakheel is proud to be the custodian of such a historic treasure. The world's most famous ocean liner will form the focal point of an exciting new development that will be a must-see attraction on Palm Jumeirah,” said Johann Schumacher, Director of Palm Jumeirah.

QE2 is one of the world's most famous ships. She has circumnavigated the world 25 times, crossed the Atlantic more than 800 times and carried more than 2.5 million passengers including kings and queens, prime ministers and presidents, astronauts and The Beatles. She survived a 95 ft wave during Hurricane Luis, carried 3,000 troops to the Falklands War and helped evacuate 500 passengers from a burning ship.

Reclamation for the pier is expected to finish by the end of 2008, with the entire project scheduled for completion in 2011.

Renderings of QE2 in location:


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posted 08-25-2008 02:24 PM      Profile for nycruiser   Email nycruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They really do not look like they are leaving her the way she is now. She looks like a smaller QM2!!
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posted 08-25-2008 02:28 PM      Profile for VDK   Email VDK   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Definitely the QM2 with a taller funnel. Maybe they bought the wrong ship!...lol
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posted 08-25-2008 02:30 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Joe,
I'm starting to wonder if those in Dubai have any clue what ship they actually bought? The images are clearly doctered images of QM2 and not QE2.

Ernie


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nathan
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posted 08-25-2008 02:40 PM      Profile for nathan     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
Joe,
I'm starting to wonder if those in Dubai have any clue what ship they actually bought? The images are clearly doctered images of QM2 and not QE2.

Ernie


I agree. That is definitely QM2.


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posted 08-25-2008 02:59 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
Joe,
I'm starting to wonder if those in Dubai have any clue what ship they actually bought? The images are clearly doctered images of QM2 and not QE2.

Ernie


Unfortunately, I don't think it matters to them. They just want a picture that shows what they are shooting for...

One man's definition of preservation can differ greatly from anothers. I am not sure how they can transform the ship "...into an ultra-luxury floating hotel" without making some dramatic changes.


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posted 08-25-2008 03:27 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Manfred Ursprunger is in charge of this project. I think he knows full well the ship purchased and those from Dubai have been round her enough in Southampton. Either the renderings are complete nonsense or they really are going to do something like this.. although she looks QM2, there are bits of QE2 there too, most odd.

Pam


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posted 08-25-2008 03:55 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Its possible that the renderings are just in acurate. It wouldnt be the first time that has happened.
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posted 08-25-2008 04:33 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Manfred Ursprunger is in charge of this project. I think he knows full well the ship purchased and those from Dubai have been round her enough in Southampton. Either the renderings are complete nonsense or they really are going to do something like this.. although she looks QM2, there are bits of QE2 there too, most odd.

Pam


There is no question this is QM2. Even the lifeboat arrangements and hull hole balconies are there. Yes they photoshopped out the aft funnels and took the cranes off the bow, but clearly this is QM2. I really don't see any of QE2 to be honest.

If they want to build a replica of QM2 then do so. It would hardly make sense to create "hull hole balconies" in QE2 or try to make QE2 look like QM2.

My guess is these renderings are complete nonsense, but I would imagine Manfred Ursprunger approved them since he is in charge. ????

Ernie


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posted 08-25-2008 06:45 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only part of QE2 I see is the long forecastle. The rest is a stretched QM2 w/QE2 funnel.
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Could you imagine if the SS Norway was purchased by Dubai World as was restored back into the SS France? It would have rivaled the QE2, any day of the week. But that's now a dream. Carry on!
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posted 08-26-2008 02:14 AM      Profile for etruriaguy   Email etruriaguy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
um yeah im not buying it that they are going to do this to her!!!
i can't see them buying such a historic ship only to go and change the outward appearance so much!! although i do agree, it will take quite some doing to refit her to dubai's standard of luxury!! will be an interesting story to follow!!!

mind you i hope cunarnival takes a look at these pics and gets some idea's towards new cunard tonnage that isnt just a brick of a cruise ship. i actually really like the mix of qe2 and qm2.


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posted 08-26-2008 02:38 AM      Profile for jetwet1   Author's Homepage   Email jetwet1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by etruriaguy:
i actually really like the mix of qe2 and qm2.

Well at least I am not the only one, but would they actually build a ship like that ?

Remove one deck of the new balcony rooms and she would look a lot more balanced.


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These probably are inaccurate. I saw other renderings for a floating cruise terminal on another board. Docked were clearly QM2 but QV was part Vista/part mini QM2 with a QE2 funnel. If only! I always doubted the 60s recreation because it would date so fast. We'll find out soon enough but with all those hotels as competition on the Palm alone they have a tough job on their hands to make an old ship work once the initial novelty's worn off and I can't see them doing it.
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Patsys right, even the airport duty free is more glam than QE2 on her best day - that is what they like, never mind the Berg Al Arab or elsewhere. Just hope long term they can make her work. Mind the rate they go through yachts there she might have to stand in !
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posted 08-26-2008 10:34 AM      Profile for SCOTT H   Author's Homepage   Email SCOTT H   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You 're right, does look a lot like the QM2 with bit of the QE2 thrown in. Odd.

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the point of this press release was to show WHERE the QE2 would be and showcase the new marina and hotel complex - NOT to show what was being done to the QE2.

Tim


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quote:
Originally posted by Tim in 'Lauderdale:
the point of this press release was to show WHERE the QE2 would be and showcase the new marina and hotel complex - NOT to show what was being done to the QE2.

Tim


That is true but why the artistic licensee w/the ship? I doubt she will be altered to that extent but I wonder why they bothered.


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quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
That is true but why the artistic licensee w/the ship? I doubt she will be altered to that extent but I wonder why they bothered.

I think we CT'ers ask ourselves that question everytime a news release comes out that almost always incorrectly identifies a ship, cruise line, statistic, questionable fact, or rumor.

I think what Tim was trying to say was that we know it isnt the QE2 pictured, we just didnt need 15 CT'ers confirming it.


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Maybe we wait speculation is not helping to clear things up.

Greetings Ben.


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quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

That is true but why the artistic licensee w/the ship? I doubt she will be altered to that extent but I wonder why they bothered.


Exactly...

Someone took the time to modify an image of QM2 in the same manner for all three views. Why not just cut and past either QE2 or QM2 into the images?


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quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:

Exactly...

Someone took the time to modify an image of QM2 in the same manner for all three views. Why not just cut and past either QE2 or QM2 into the images?


Because the developer told an ad agency to include a ship - a graphic artist was told to search for a photo of the Cunard Queen. The artist liked the photo he or she found of QM2 and altered it because he or she, being an artist, thought that their redition looked best.

The powers that be took one quick look at the photos and approved them for distribution.

That's how it happens.

Tim


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quote:
Originally posted by Tim in 'Lauderdale:

Because the developer told an ad agency to include a ship - a graphic artist was told to search for a photo of the Cunard Queen. The artist liked the photo he or she found of QM2 and altered it because he or she, being an artist, thought that their redition looked best.

The powers that be took one quick look at the photos and approved them for distribution.

That's how it happens.

Tim


That's probably true, but idle speculation based on limited information is always more fun.

Little known fact - idle speculation and people uploading their cameras to online galleries accounts for 95% of all Internet activity...


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quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:
Little known fact - idle speculation and people uploading their cameras to online galleries accounts for 95% of all Internet activity...


I thought that was Facebook and MySpace...


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I think it is a shame that QE2 will not be preserved as is. All that Cunard memorabilia should be given (sold) back to Cunard. Big mistake in including all the memorabilia in the sale. What was Carnival Cprp. thinking? lf this is what Dubai wants to do with QE2 maybe some wealthy British group or organisation should try to buyback the QE2. Having taken 20 cruises/crossings on QE2, no other ship can match QE2 in ambiance. I feel she should have been kept at Clydebank or Southampton.
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