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Greetings Ben.
[ 10-04-2008: Message edited by: Maasdam ]
That would be sweet.
Ben - Some nice pictures !
Thankyou.
quote:Originally posted by Neil Whitmore ( Bob ex P&O Cruises):Is it known if the davits will be fitted to both sides of the ship or just the side against the quay.Ben - Some nice pictures !Thankyou.
Contact for more information:info@derotterdam.com
In the answer they sent to me that all boats(davits) will return on board.
I can't wait till she finally opens for the public!
Somewhere thre are two lifeboats which can fit in, however I have never heard about a confirmation that these two lifeboats will come to Rotterdam.
Unfortunately, There are no lifeboats of the Statendam left in Alang. These were the same as on the Rotterdam.
Willem
quote:Originally posted by Willem:There are not enough lifeboats to put back on the ship.There will be four empty davits as the tenders will be used for transporting guests.Somewhere thre are two lifeboats which can fit in, however I have never heard about a confirmation that these two lifeboats will come to Rotterdam.Unfortunately, There are no lifeboats of the Statendam left in Alang. These were the same as on the Rotterdam.Willem
Couldn't the owners commission a company to recreate/custom create the 4 missing lifeboats?
According De Rotterdam BV. In there answer on my e-mail regarding the tenders. The tenders will not be used fore transportation, restoration is to costly. Spido tours will transport passengers to and from the Rotterdam. The only one tender restored will used fore VIP and guest of the Rotterdam BV. So I guess that the remaining tenders will return a/b the Rotterdam.
BUT I remember that some time ago Holland America Line returned 1 of the original life boat back. They held this boat in storage in Seattle. Wonder if the 3 other life boats are still in storage with HAL. This life boat and the 3 remaining tenders could fit on the existing 3 empty tender/life boat locations
Ben.
[ 10-07-2008: Message edited by: Maasdam ]
So they changed the plans for restoration of the tenders ? ?When they arrived in Rotterdam, they agreed that the Albeda college would restore them.
quote:Originally posted by Maasdam:According De Rotterdam BV. In there answer on my e-mail regarding the tenders. The tenders will not be used fore transportation, restoration is to costly. Spido tours will transport passengers to and from the Rotterdam. The only one tender restored will used fore VIP and guest of the Rotterdam BV. So I guess that the remaining tenders will return a/b the Rotterdam. BUT I remember that some time ago Holland America Line returned 1 of the original life boat back. They held this boat in storage in Seattle. Wonder if the 3 other life boats are still in storage with HAL. This life boat and the 3 remaining tenders could fit on the existing 3 empty tender/life boat locationsBen.[ 10-07-2008: Message edited by: Maasdam ]
Too costly to restore the 4 tenders? I find that hard to believe, considering that they have spent almost 200 Million Euros to rebuild the SS Rotterdam.
quote:Originally posted by Redlinekid2:Too costly to restore the 4 tenders? I find that hard to believe, considering that they have spent almost 200 Million Euros to rebuild the SS Rotterdam.
Why? Just because they spent more money than planned does not mean that they can afford to spend even more.
see here
Today the four tenders of the Rotterdam arrived on the grounds of the former Rotterdam Drydock Company. Last monday they were picked up in Gibraltar by the ms Deo Volente of Wagenborg. The new owners “De Rotterdam BV” will restore the tenders in cooperation with the Albeda College to use them as ferries between the future berth of the vessel at Maashaven and different parts of the city of Rotterdam.Two lifeboats that were found back in the USA this summer will be transported to Europe soon.
[ 10-08-2008: Message edited by: Willem ]
quote:Originally posted by Willem:Latest info received.All four tenders will be restored, but they will not be replaced on the ship.The two lifeboats, found at the U.S. Westcoast, are still there. Transportation to Rotterdam has not yet been possible due to the high cost.Making cpies is also out of the question at this moment, also due to the high cost.[ 10-08-2008: Message edited by: Willem ]
Not to mention the global banking crisis. But couldn't the owners talk to HAL about using one of their ships to transport the 2 lifeboats from the US westcoast to rotterdam? For example, a HAL ship that regularly comes to Rotterdam could have two of its lifeboats removed and kept in storage so that it could pickup the original lifeboats to take back to Rotterdam. Once the ship arrives(whenever that may be), the owners could return the loaned lifeboats(that belongs to the vessel retreiving the SS Rotterdam's old lifeboats) for the originals.
One of the captains did retrieve the ship's original mast pole. So it could be done. But as you said, it all comes down to cost. I am not sure if HAL would be willing to do it as a good will gesture.
[ 10-08-2008: Message edited by: Redlinekid2 ]
quote:Originally posted by Redlinekid2:For example, a HAL ship that regularly comes to Rotterdam could have two of its lifeboats removed and kept in storage so that it could pickup the original lifeboats to take back to Rotterdam. Once the ship arrives(whenever that may be), the owners could return the loaned lifeboats(that belongs to the vessel retreiving the SS Rotterdam's old lifeboats) for the originals.
Now, if the two lifeboats were placed on the deck, it can be done.
quote:Now, if the two lifeboats were placed on the deck, it can be done.
That is what it originally meant to say.
If HAL could get the two remaining lifeboats in Seattle onboard one of their ships that comes to Rotterdam from that location, that should not be a problem. From what I could see from the pictures regarding the restoration of the four tenders, there is a lot of work that needs to be done.
quote:Originally posted by Redlinekid2:That is what it originally meant to say. If HAL could get the two remaining lifeboats in Seattle onboard one of their ships that comes to Rotterdam from that location, that should not be a problem. From what I could see from the pictures regarding the restoration of the four tenders, there is a lot of work that needs to be done.
Still - what would be the point of doing that? What would be the advantage compared to transporting them by cargo ship? (especially since it actually would be a 'problem' - one would have to build a support for the tenders, get a crane to hoist them aboard etc.)
quote:Originally posted by Ernst:Still - what would be the point of doing that? What would be the advantage compared to transporting them by cargo ship? (especially since it actually would be a 'problem' - one would have to build a support for the tenders, get a crane to hoist them aboard etc.)
The owners would not have to pay HAL for doing the task, unlike private cargo shipping firm. HAL could do the at no cost to the owners in exchage of working together on making the SS Rotterdam a business partnership between them and would make the Stationary ship goals a success.
quote:Originally posted by Redlinekid2:The owners would not have to pay HAL for doing the task, unlike private cargo shipping firm. HAL could do the at no cost to the owners in exchage of working together on making the SS Rotterdam a business partnership between them and would make the Stationary ship goals a success.[ 10-08-2008: Message edited by: Redlinekid2 ]
Oh no here we go again. Don't make you're self rediculous........
De Rotterdam BV has to pay for everuthing they want to have done.The masttop was brought to Barcelona on the Veendam by the kindness of the captain. However, the transport from Barcelona to Rotterdam had to be paid. Guess by whom ? ? ?
The two lifeboats which are still at the U.S. Westcoast can be obtained for free, but transport to Rotterdam has to be paid for.
It was a plan that HAL should have an office on the s.s. Rotterdam, however, HAL had to pay rent for the space.
Communications betwee RDM and HAL were very friendly and HAL was very cooperative, but cooperation with the present owners are on a very low level.
I think you are a very optimistic dreamer
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