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desirod7
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posted 01-07-2009 06:41 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone know anything? how far gone is she?
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Midshipcentury
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posted 01-07-2009 11:14 PM      Profile for Midshipcentury     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nothing happened for three months after her beaching, then she was finally stripped of nearly everything while being dragged closer. Her dented bow is now gone and cutting has begun in earnest. So sad to see this old girl get torn apart. She's like the QUEEN MARY, albeit in miniature. The fittings, now apparently sold off or broken down into recyclable components, were so typically 1930s through late 1950s British with the same joinery techniques, acid etched glass, nickel, etc. Linoleum and wood paneling revealed after years under the Farcus formica and wall "carpeting". RIP EMPRESS.
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posted 01-07-2009 11:48 PM      Profile for Redlinekid2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Midshipcentury:
Nothing happened for three months after her beaching, then she was finally stripped of nearly everything while being dragged closer. Her dented bow is now gone and cutting has begun in earnest. So sad to see this old girl get torn apart. She's like the QUEEN MARY, albeit in miniature. The fittings, now apparently sold off or broken down into recyclable components, were so typically 1930s through late 1950s British with the same joinery techniques, acid etched glass, nickel, etc. Linoleum and wood paneling revealed after years under the Farcus formica and wall "carpeting". RIP EMPRESS.

Such a sad fate, indeed. To think that the ship would still be sailing with the Peaceboat Organization, were it not for the skyhigh oil prices that ended her charter with them last year. In addition, the skyhigh scrapmental prices doomed her because those inflated prices was close to her resale value to other shipping companies. Thus, Glasgow lost the opportunity to get the vessel on time.


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SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
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posted 01-08-2009 06:17 PM      Profile for SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Email SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Redlinekid2:

Such a sad fate, indeed. To think that the ship would still be sailing with the Peaceboat Organization, were it not for the skyhigh oil prices that ended her charter with them last year. In addition, the skyhigh scrapmental prices doomed her because those inflated prices was close to her resale value to other shipping companies. Thus, Glasgow lost the opportunity to get the vessel on time.


i seriously doubt that glasgow would have wanted the SS Topaz, or if anyone would ever want to go there to visit it, i presume you have never been there?


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posted 01-08-2009 06:28 PM      Profile for VDK   Email VDK   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually I was just in Glasgow and found that city to be quite nice. Been there a few times. But then I guess I am not biased by history and by what once was so to speak...;-)
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SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
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posted 01-09-2009 04:22 PM      Profile for SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Email SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
as far as most englanders are concerned, Glasgow is VERY low on the list of places to visit, as it has gained reputation as being very rough, as proven by these statistics.


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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 01-09-2009 04:35 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tom

You may a low opinion of Glasgow but I was there when it was the year it was the ' City of Culture ' and I really enjoyed my visit so do not think all UK residents think the same as you !

I do not know where you got these numbers from but it does not say over what period they are based.

This type of posting only puts tourists off visiting the UK which does not help those invoved in the tourist industry which includes cruising !


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SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
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posted 01-09-2009 04:57 PM      Profile for SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Email SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
tourists need to visit London not Glasgow!!!

PS: http://www.upmystreet.com/


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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 01-09-2009 06:19 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tom

I live 30 miles from London and it is far cheaper to stay in Luton than book in to a hotel in London.

Regarding Glasgow they have an excellent transport museum with full size steam railway engines and tram cars on display.

Upstairs there is an excellent model ship collection.

I do not know if you have visited Glasgow but if you did you might not publish such deogratory remarks about the city.

I have visited Weston Super Mare which I found to have a very run down appearence, very high car parking charges and stayed at hotel which could do with a update, the bathroom needed a good clean, and the manager was not prepared to serve a meal after 8.00pm in the evening.

They were AA listed but not any longer !

To my mind it is a place I would not visit again !


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desirod7
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posted 01-09-2009 06:31 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I visited Glasgow in 1996 and stayed near the Art School.

It is a treasure trove of architecture by Charles Rennie McKintosh. There is a bit of everything.

The Gorbels which was notorious for the razor gangs had huge slum clearance. The hi-rises co-exist with what was new at the time row houses with a common back yard.

The West end of the city was built upon industrial wealth with beautiful 19th century row homes, manor houses, parks and museums.

Merchant City had historic buildings gutted on the inside yet the facades and lobbiies if warranted preserved.

I did see the Maritime Museum

The city is not the Newark/Cleveland/Detroit of Scotland anymore.


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SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
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posted 01-09-2009 06:43 PM      Profile for SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Email SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
yes but you are forgetting something, i hate Weston-Super-Mare. I hate most towns and cities in the UK (except Cardiff for some sick reason), and my one reason to be on this earth was to complain.

now, not that i want to stop this... THRILLING debate, this is wandering off topic

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mike sa
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posted 01-09-2009 11:55 PM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is "libidinous practices" - something I should be trying ?

And by the way wasn't Glasgow voted best shopping centre in UK or something, I use dot have an office there, great restaurants, bars, hotels, clean tidy and friendly.


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Midshipcentury
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posted 01-10-2009 01:29 AM      Profile for Midshipcentury     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank You. Now, can we go back to whining about THE TOPAZ? LOL (but not altogether facetiously). I guess since the BLUE LADY has really stolen the mourning limelight these past two years, it actually feels purposeful to lament another ship, in many ways just as important.

Peter


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desirod7
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posted 01-11-2009 10:09 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here here Peter,

I had a chance to revisit in 2004: The photo album


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Midshipcentury
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posted 01-11-2009 05:03 PM      Profile for Midshipcentury     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great photos, David. Thanks for the refresher. My last visit was a couple years prior in Vancouver. She was utterly spotless. I didn't chase her much after that since I really managed to capture everything but the engine room. It was so nice to bid her goodbye in Canadian waters.

I have yet to write or publish anything about my trip to Alang to see her in August. It was a disaster as far as TOPAZ was concerned but I did see her on the beach with that crumpled bow next to BLUE LADY for a few fleeting moments and got some rather amazing shots from the FINNJET.

Peter


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posted 01-11-2009 05:13 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Midshipcentury:
Great photos, David. Thanks for the refresher. My last visit was a couple years prior in Vancouver. She was utterly spotless. I didn't chase her much after that since I really managed to capture everything but the engine room. It was so nice to bid her goodbye in Canadian waters.

I have yet to write or publish anything about my trip to Alang to see her in August. It was a disaster as far as TOPAZ was concerned but I did see her on the beach with that crumpled bow next to BLUE LADY for a few fleeting moments and got some rather amazing shots from the FINNJET.

Peter


Any news about or photos of Mermoz?


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desirod7
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posted 01-11-2009 06:20 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Your truly

Yes, I have posted this many time before.


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I spent a hurried hour on board the then intact SERENA (ex MERMOZ, SERENADE) and did manage to purchase a number of things from her, which are still in India awaiting shipment. I will probably include a photo or two if I do a blog but did include one dramatic shot of her on the beach in my 2009 desk calendar. She has since been reduced to a pile of rubble. In December, they had her cut back to the funnel. I estimate she has another month or two to go.

Best,

Peter


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Thanks for the update.
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