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Topic: Where is my poor Regal Empress??

steeplechase
First Class Passenger
Member # 4056

posted 06-12-2009 03:15 AM

I am making myself ready for the first shot of her on the beach.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 06-12-2009 05:54 AM

She must be languishing somewhere off Alang as it's almost a month since she passed through Suez & the Red Sea. Unless she has been diverted anywhere. Everything seems very quiet.

Pam

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
First Class Passenger
Member # 5641

posted 06-12-2009 07:17 AM

Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES

Perhaps she is having a re-fit for cruises around India !

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 06-12-2009 07:35 AM

She seems to have "disappeared" in the same manner that OCEANIC ex.INDEPENDENCE did!

Rich

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 06-12-2009 08:06 AM

I'd like to know what happened to her as well, even on Vessltracker.com..it says she's out of range for tracking or something like that.

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
First Class Passenger
Member # 5641

posted 06-12-2009 08:07 AM

Both ships had a large amount of asbestos and other toxic substances on board so it was too be expected they might disappear.

I often wonder how much of the furniture and fittings, which have been removed from the ships at Alang, are de- contaminated !

In the UK you need a licence to handle these type of fixtures and fittings as has happened with the US warships which came here for breaking..

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David in VA
Just Boarded
Member # 24921

posted 06-19-2009 02:53 PM

Like many of you, I've been watching the slow journey of the RE. Searching through the various websites I tried to come up with a timeline since her departure from the Bahamas.
If anyone could fill in the missing spots or has anything else to add I'd appreciate it.

April 2 - Sails from Freeport, Bahamas
Re-registered in St. Kitts

April 6 - Arrives at Port of Spain, Trinidad

April 16 - Departs Trinidad for final transatlantic voyage

April 26 - Arrive at Las Palmas 8 AM
Depart Las Palmas 11 PM for Gibraltar

April 29 - Arrives Gibraltar

April 30th - Leaves Gibraltar at 12 PM - destined for Port Said. 13.9 kts

May 9 - During her transit she reduces speed
- Flies the "Restricted Maneuverability" flag (poss mech problems?)
- Enters Greek anchorage near Kalamata

May 11 - Departed Greek Anchorage near Kalamata, Greece at 6:15 PM traveling at 12.6 kts.

May 14 - Arrived at Port Said around 5 AM

May 15 - Transited Suez Canal in the 1st southbound convoy at 2:06 AM and exited canal at 3:10 PM.

May 19 - Passed Port Sudan in the Red Sea

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sslewis
First Class Passenger
Member # 3649

posted 06-20-2009 04:23 AM

Isn't Sudan close to Pirates stronghold?
She might have been smuggled and now sails as a Pirates Flagship.
I find it strange these Pirates attacks in such high seas with small boats..surely they need a mothership to launch their attack?

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 06-20-2009 06:26 AM

Hello everybody,

thanks to a friend with an AISLive account, I can report that "Regal Empress" was last seen sending from an anchorage at Mumbai, India, two days ago (June 18th).

Best,

Raoul

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LenKinap
First Class Passenger
Member # 23718

posted 06-20-2009 09:41 AM

According to my correspondent at Exim-India, she is expected at Alang late next week to be in the right high tide conditions. Or early in July ...

She has been inspected by the GMB inspectors.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 06-22-2009 06:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by r.fiebig:

thanks to a friend with an AISLive account, I can report that "Regal Empress" was last seen sending from an anchorage at Mumbai, India, two days ago (June 18th).
Raoul

Here's a link to a photo taken of REGAL EMPRESS at anchor off Mumbai:

REGAL EMPRESS at Mumbai

Rich

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 06-22-2009 02:47 PM

Here is her photo of her off Mumbai...some may not want to register for another account, this is from that site:
REGAL EMPRESS

This is courtesy of:
Ships Nostalgia

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steeplechase
First Class Passenger
Member # 4056

posted 06-29-2009 07:22 PM

I see there is a high tide next week that should be her final call?

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Midshipcentury
First Class Passenger
Member # 12190

posted 06-29-2009 07:45 PM

According to my friend there, not many breakers are showing an interest in RE because of her riveted hull and chopped up layout. Apparently there are loads of ro/ros and other ships at Alang that are far less labor intensive. He believes it will be a while before she is actually beached but anything could happen...

Peter

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LenKinap
First Class Passenger
Member # 23718

posted 06-30-2009 03:19 AM

Hello,

Thanks Peter for the information. My correspondent working for Exim-India tell me the same. Two plots (read breakers) -at least- and not the best are interested, but not at the price asked for. So

It could take a while (not before the beginning of July). Short or not ... it's market ! A RoRo, LPG , tanker or containers are easier to recycle (with new GMB policies), with less problem. Just a few plots are now "equipped *" to handle hazardous materials.

*: not perfectly, in the Indian way.

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LenKinap
First Class Passenger
Member # 23718

posted 07-17-2009 03:05 AM

Regal Emprees is announced at Alang soon. The last information was for the 7 of July for arrival close to the beach. But there is a mistype, she is expected for the 17th.

The Agent is MCC and no plot has been announced yet. Everything could change quickly at Alang, but the end is near. She was not reported to be beached yesterday, according to Exim-India. With his draught of 28 ft, she could be beached at any moment between Saturday and next Saturday. Monday is the best ...

Source Exim-India.

[ 07-17-2009: Message edited by: LenKinap ]

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LenKinap
First Class Passenger
Member # 23718

posted 07-17-2009 05:56 AM

By the way, her name has changed: From "Regal Empress", she is now called (if there is no other typo) "Regal Tmpress".

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LenKinap
First Class Passenger
Member # 23718

posted 07-21-2009 01:47 AM

So Regal Empress (now Regal Tmpress) is now officially arrived at at Alang the 19th of July and will be beached the next few days (probably today).

http://www.exim-india.com/newsletter...ng-arrived.htm

She has no plot assigned, the plot N° will be named when the beaching process is finished.

RI.P

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 07-21-2009 01:50 AM

Link here

http://www.exim-india.com/newsletter/vesselmove/charts/alang-arrived.htm

quote:
Originally posted by LenKinap:
So Regal Empress (now Regal Tmpress) is now officially arrived at at Alang the 19th of July and will be beached the next few days (probably today).
http://www.exim-india.com/newsletter...ng-arrived.htm
She has no plot assigned, the plot N° will be named when the beaching process is finished.
RI.P

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LenKinap
First Class Passenger
Member # 23718

posted 07-21-2009 03:04 AM

Oops .. It was a "cut and past" from my post on CV forum and the link was truncated.

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Midshipcentury
First Class Passenger
Member # 12190

posted 07-22-2009 03:16 AM

Yes, today appears to be the day. No firm plot yet, but the guess from my source is that she will end up in an area that is difficult to photograph due to a number of other ships in the vicinity and her deep draft. In any case, the old girl will finally be put to rest after an amazing and successful career. All those people who sneered at her in recent years from their big box boats in Florida and the Bahamas will never understand.

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nycruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 960

posted 07-22-2009 10:35 AM

I know its just a ship but for people who love ships as we do it is sad. I sailed the Empress back in 1993 and 1996 plus my mom and grandparents sailed her back in the late 60s early 70s as the Olympia to Bermuda from NYC. When I sailed on her there was no doubt she was old but I thought charming. I will always remember the library with the original Greek Line insignia etched into the wood. Regal Cruises reserected the insignia and made it their own. It also amazes me that the Regal Empress also docked in port with so many of the great liners. I have photos of her in books by Bill Miller and the likes that show her back in the 50's docked next to the legendary QE, Queen Mary, United States. It is amazing to think that she has made it all these years. One thing to be happy about was that she had a long career and was a very popular as a ship. She was especially popular as Commodore's Caribe 1 and she gained a big reputation here in the NYC area as the Regal Empress......afordable fun cruises and her 1 and 2 night party cruises were always in demand. I have great memories of her....RIP!

[ 07-22-2009: Message edited by: nycruiser ]

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 07-22-2009 10:53 AM

Midshipcentury said:

quote:
All those people who sneered at her in recent years from their big box boats in Florida and the Bahamas will never understand.

And that's sad, because she far outclassed them in style and grace that they would ever be.

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 07-22-2009 03:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by DAMBROSI:
Midshipcentury said:
And that's sad, because she far outclassed them in style and grace that they would ever be.

Olympia-Regal Empress has an unquantifiable feel that few classic liners can exude much less any modern ship.

related thread
Some ships have IT, some don't

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Redlinekid2
First Class Passenger
Member # 7157

posted 07-22-2009 10:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by desirod7:
Olympia-Regal Empress has an unquantifiable feel that few classic liners can exude much less any modern ship.
related thread
Some ships have IT, some don't

I so much wanted to see this ship saved for future generations. Even in Glasgow. But now a twist of fate took my favorite ship away.

This has let a huge hole in my heart. I wanted to see Great Britain have this ship. And now, my resolve has been unwinded. I feel less of a motivation to advocate on the rescue some of these all time greats.

What am I to do now that my favorite ships are now gone?

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