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Any changes in drydock? Is she ready to go?
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The recommendation list is .... important !!!!
This arrival is 24 hours later than the original information which was posted.
quote:Originally posted by Rego007:To the average person, this doesn't sound very good. Is that the case or is this just a case of an older ship that is coming due for normal repairs and inspection updates?
The ones due to expire November 2009 would actually hit during her next voyage so again one would assume they have been working on these points.
Most of these issues appear to have been known at the time the Oceanic was sold so hopefully no one is surprised that she needed maintenance.
Be interested to see her on return to Yokohama and what's next.
But be careful; the data could be outdated or are only waiting a validation from BV experts to have certification survey. But, it was earlier reported that the ship was Solas 2010 compliant and it was false.If they do the November heavy maintenance, she could be Solas 2010 Compliant ... not yet.
[ 08-25-2009: Message edited by: LenKinap ]
She is due to sail tomorrow on the 67th Japanese Peace Boat Global Voyage and due to arrive back in Yokohama on the 11th December 2009.
Picture of her is on my other website !
The Yokohama port information has changed her sailing time to Noon on the 27th August 2009
It was more common to see that type of smoke when a steamship was maneuvering and they did not adjust quickly enough ... but at the dock that does not look good.
I'm not so optimistic when I see the list of recommendations detected last week:
Hull34.2 Adjust the fire damper at forward port side fire door of the funnel deck in engine room. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue35.1 Deck plating in way of fire dampers on the funnel deck to be re-enforced (or renewed) during dry dock to provide safe access 30 Aug 2009 Overdue36.1 Fire main in way of life boat no. 2 (port forward) on lifeboat deck to be renewed. Undersized bolts on connection flange to be replaced. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue37.1 Hull structure in way of engine machinery spaces, including suctect areas port side, from frame no. 90 - 97, auxiliary engine room port side (FR 97 - 112); stabilizer area (FR 122 - 127) to be close up surveyed, UT measured, and repaired as required. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue38.1 Coin laundry installation in Passenger Self Service Space on lounge deck starboard (FR 76 - 80) to comply with BV requirements or be removed / relocated. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue39.1 Sprinkler system efficiency to be confirmed by BV Plan Review further to the addition of display window awnings or display window awning to be removed. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue41.1 Recommendations 33.1 and 40.1 postponed/ 30 Aug 2009 OverdueMachinery29.2 Emergency diesel generator fuel tank to be fitted with a remotely operated quick closing valve and proper gauge glass. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue29.3 Emergency fire pump fuel tank to be fitted with a remotely operated quick closing valve. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue30.1 Main and emergency switchboards to be cleaned during dry-dock. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue32.1 Recommendation 31.1 postponed 30 Aug 2009 OverdueBoilers21.1 Main boiler no. 2 bottom plating to be permanently repaired. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue21.2 All main boiler exhaust gas manifolds to be close-up examined and permanently repaired. 30 Aug 2009 Overdue22.1 Definitive repair to Rec 20.1 and 20.2 to be carried out during DOK and Special Survey 30 Aug 2009 Overdue23.1 Recommendation 19.1 postponed 30 Aug 2009 Overdue
And the previous list of recommendation that are "overdue".
That vessel has some problem, including in the engine room (point 22.1 was checking and repairing 3 boilers permanently including plates and drums and water-wall).
Should the Japanese shipyard been unable to complete all the work Mona Lisa appears to be free for chartering again from October 2009 to May 2010.
ss Oceanic is due at Piraeus on the 4th October 2009 on her present voyage and again on the 5th May 2010 !
As the new owners of ss Oceanic say they intend to use the ship for at least ten years, that would even be enough time for her to be re-engined or have a major overhaul at Gibraltar or Malta where they have worked on the ship in the past.
But you can trust me, the Oceanic is NOT in pristine condition. Under a good coat of paint, you have sometimes very bad vessels. For her future, it depends if PeaceBoat wants to put some money to refurbish her, first to upgrade to SOLAS 2010 AND then to have a safe machinery system, hull and tanks. At the moment, I am not sure at all for both of the conditions.
Did they reclass her to another society during the Japan drydock? Reflag her away from Malta?
Also FYI to the comment about the Oceanic and 2010 compliance it is my understanding that she needs no significant upgrades to meet 2010. As a Method I ship in 1965 she had a good start and the upgrades done over time put her in compliance with the key points of 2010.
Pam
quote:Originally posted by LenKinap:22.1 Definitive repair to Rec 20.1 and 20.2 to be carried out during DOK and Special Survey 30 Aug 2009 Overdue//That vessel has some problem, including in the engine room (point 22.1 was checking and repairing 3 boilers permanently including plates and drums and water-wall).
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Oh sh*t.
Tube failure is one thing. Header failure is another entirely. Considering the temperature and pressure of superheated steam, all you have to do is think back to a certain well-known long blue ship to remember what a waterwall header failure looks like... and that was in port.
"Class Withdrawn" makes perfect sense at this point. Based on what I can see, those boilers must be gone. Without major repairs, boiler replacement or re-engining, I wouldn't even sail Oceanic to Alang under her own power at this point, no matter how badly I hated the engineers.
It will be interesting to see how Peaceboat decides to handle this.
quote:Originally posted by Lubber:Oh sh*t., all you have to do is think back to a certain well-known long blue ship to remember what a waterwall header failure looks It will be interesting to see how Peaceboat decides to handle this.
, all you have to do is think back to a certain well-known long blue ship to remember what a waterwall header failure looks It will be interesting to see how Peaceboat decides to handle this.
Oceanic is 44yo, SSNorway was 41 at her mechanical death. Somehow I think that fate was kind when Rembrandt ceased service when she did. Had she had a boiler explosion She would not be in Rotterdam City today and on the beach.
It seems that every time they fix something, another thing breaks. I hope Oceanic can keep going.
quote:Originally posted by Lubber:"Class Withdrawn" makes perfect sense at this point.
She has merely swapped classification societies. If class was withdrawn she would not be sailing.
Norway's boiler was a botch job of repairs if anyone ever read the full report. As to whether any of those items in the list are serious or not you'd need an experienced steamship engineer's opinion. She was surveyed this month for reclassing, after all those other lists should have been dealt with, so maybe they have. Anything of her age will have problems from time to time; should be fine as long as dealt with correctly.
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