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Rex
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posted 08-06-2010 08:42 AM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can never seem to find enough pics of these two underrated sisters. Why is that? Is it because their commercial lives were relatively short? Or because they weren't "important" liners, or because they were overshadowed by their running mate SS America, and later the Big U?

I find the same pics online over and over, and little or no interior pics. Even the books I have on US ocean liners have little or no pictures, or at least not ones that I have not seen before...


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Linerrich
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posted 08-07-2010 10:44 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're right, there has been very little published on these fine ships. Like all the other Cabin liners of the 1930s, they were and still are, overshadowed by the luxury express liners. From the stand-point of American-flag liners, they've always been overshadowed by UNITED STATES, and to a lesser degree, the AMERICA.

But WASHINGTON and MANHATTAN were definitely great ships in their own right, serving quite well in peacetime and wartime.

Rich


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 08-07-2010 12:20 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Years ago I had a travel agent brochure of the post-war Washington. There were a few B&W images of the former 1st class interiors which were apparently be sold at a much lower rate than other liners that offered a true 1st class experience.

My dad picked up the brochure at our old travel agency in Pasadena for a planned post-college trip to Europe in 1949. He later chose the ss Atlantic to the Med and returned to the States on the Ile de France.

I'm sure the brochure is around the house somewhere in a dusty box!


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Linerrich
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posted 08-07-2010 01:09 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few years ago I created an album on CT with photos from MANHATTAN & WASHINGTON--those images can be seen here.

Most of these views are standard images taken from brochures, but may be new to those who are unfamiliar with the ships.

Rich


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Rex
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posted 08-07-2010 07:19 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
A few years ago I created an album on CT with photos from MANHATTAN & WASHINGTON--those images can be seen here.

Most of these views are standard images taken from brochures, but may be new to those who are unfamiliar with the ships.

Rich


Many thanks for these, Linerrich. I have seen the pics of the cabin class dining room, but the others were new to my eyes. They seemed quite comfortable, if a little lacking in contemporary Art Deco glamor of the other liners of the period. Similar to those of the post-WWI Hamburg-Amerika liners.

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Linerrich
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posted 08-08-2010 07:35 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Rex:
Many thanks for these, Linerrich. I have seen the pics of the cabin class dining room, but the others were new to my eyes. They seemed quite comfortable, if a little lacking in contemporary Art Deco glamor of the other liners of the period. Similar to those of the post-WWI Hamburg-Amerika liners.
[ 08-07-2010: Message edited by: Rex ]

Yes, these were basically designs from the 1920s, intended for homey, familiar comfort rather than opulent, flashy style. I think people who were intimidated by the surroundings (and higher prices) of the express liners were more comfortable travelling in the Cabin liners, and we tend to forget that there were many of the latter than the former.

Rich


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Maasdam
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posted 08-08-2010 09:10 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of them was used to sail the American Olympic team to the Olympic games in Amsterdam 1928. Thats the only fact (beside the WW2 actions of the ships) that I know about them.

Looking at the pictures from Rich they remind me at the Statendam of 1929 interiors.

Greetings Ben.

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Linerrich
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posted 08-08-2010 09:20 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
One of them was used to sail the American Olympic team to the Olympic games in Amsterdam 1928. Thats the only fact (beside the WW2 actions of the ships) that I know about them.
[ 08-08-2010: Message edited by: Maasdam ]

Hi Ben, these ships were not built until the 1930s--the US 1928 Olympic Teams crossed in PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT -- See Here.

MANHATTAN and WASHINGTON, did, however, carry the 1936 Olympic Teams to Germany.

Rich

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Rex
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posted 08-08-2010 11:59 AM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is a pic somewhere (maybe Corbis) of Jesse Owens on the promenade deck of one of the sisters, on his way to Germany - to make history.

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Rex
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posted 08-08-2010 12:03 PM      Profile for Rex     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Years ago I had a travel agent brochure of the post-war Washington. There were a few B&W images of the former 1st class interiors which were apparently be sold at a much lower rate than other liners that offered a true 1st class experience.

My dad picked up the brochure at our old travel agency in Pasadena for a planned post-college trip to Europe in 1949. He later chose the ss Atlantic to the Med and returned to the States on the Ile de France.

I'm sure the brochure is around the house somewhere in a dusty box!


Let us know when you find it, lasuvidaboy.


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Maasdam
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posted 08-09-2010 10:32 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:

Hi Ben, these ships were not built until the 1930s--the US 1928 Olympic Teams crossed in PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT -- See Here.

MANHATTAN and WASHINGTON, did, however, carry the 1936 Olympic Teams to Germany.

Rich

[ 08-08-2010: Message edited by: Linerrich ]


Thanks Rich where was this board without you're knoledge....

Greetings Ben.


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posted 08-17-2010 07:25 PM      Profile for dbr46   Email dbr46   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I use to see both of them in the hudson river reserve fleet and watched them being towed down the river to be scrapped in new jersey
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Linerrich
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posted 08-18-2010 06:18 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dbr46:
I use to see both of them in the hudson river reserve fleet and watched them being towed down the river to be scrapped in new jersey

Here is the WASHINGTON being scrapped at Kearny, NJ on 29 June 1965:

Rich


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Too bad Chandris didn't snap them up - I think they had a few more years of service left in them.
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