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Red Hook is quite the opposite. Yes it is more difficult to get to from Manhattan or Long Island, but once on site, the facility is nice. The borough of Brooklyn went to great lengths to accommodate Carnival/Princess & Cunard. Passengers are treated very well at the dock. The building is completely air-conditioned, has plenty of seats and restroom facilities. The decor is pure Brooklyn. The walls are decorated with pictures of iconic Brooklyn landmarks like Nathans, Coney Island, and the Brooklyn Bridge. It even has a large sign in the Dodgers logo which states "Welcome to Brooklyn". The parking lot for local cruisers is directly across the street and within walking distance.
I still prefer sailing out of New York from the West Side Piers. The view of Manhattan from the Hudson is worth the price of the ticket. Passengers sailing out of Bayonne or Red Hook are never afforded that delight. Any thoughts? I'm sailing from Bayonne on September 4th and am not looking forward to the embarkation experience.
RCL/Celebrity spend a tremendous amount of money on new tonnage ever year. I think they can set some money aside to build a first class facility in Bayonne or leave.
I'll take Bayonne over Brooklyn any day. True, as a facility, it's pretty much a wasteland; but it's 15 minutes from the Newark airport, Liberty Park is nearby (and is a wonderful family-oriented place) and it's a breeze to get to.
It really comes down to what you want: a modern terminal in a crappy area that's difficult to get to, or a make-shift check in facility that's less conjested and easy to find (and with options for other things to do).....
-Russ
[ 06-30-2011: Message edited by: linerguy ]
Second for me would be Carnival's Red Hook facility. Yes, the area around it is seedy, that is putting it nicely. My father used to work in this area 15 years ago and back then it was a rough part of town. But I will say the views are not that bad from this terminal. You have a nice view of lower Manhattan.
Bayonne is my least favorite and Royal really should make an entirely new terminal, one that is near the ship. They made such noise about going there but IMO they could do a lot more. The area does look like a wasteland and besides I was reading on one board how paint from the nearby drydock is getting on passenger's parked cars! Unfortunately, this is not a one or two time occurance. It depends how the wind blows, literally! In addition the views from Cape Liberty are so so.
I really, really wish NYC refurbished and expanded all the West side terminals in Manhattan. NCL just refurbished one pier and enlarged the dock area but they could not make the slips longer. Too bad.
Don't get me wrong about Red Hook: the terminal is very nice....I just don't like where it is. There really isn't a terminal in Bayonne, which is the problem...but it's actually in a pretty good location.
[ 07-01-2011: Message edited by: BMWM5 ]
quote:Originally posted by BMWM5:I did write a personal letter to the CEO of RCL outlining my concerns with the Bayonne Facility. I believe RCL moved from Midtown Manhattan to Bayonne in 2004. I would think by this time RCL would have done something to upgrade their facilities. It seems they invest a tremendous amount of money on new tonnage. You'd think they could spend a fraction of that on a decent facility.
I think you're absolutely right. It is possible, however; that plans had been made to built a facility but permits, money etc....got in the way. It's also possible that it was seen as a temporary solution and time has just slipped by.
By the way, I like your handle - BMWM5 - awesome vehicle! Very potent driving experience! also, welcome to Cruise Talk.
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