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Snowboarder
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posted 03-29-2000 12:30 PM      Profile for Snowboarder     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How much "duty-free" liquor, from San Juan, are we allowed to bring back into the States?
Since Puerto Rico is an American territory, I assume we can bring back at least 6 bottles per person, "duty-free"

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sympatico
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posted 03-29-2000 03:34 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We just got back from a cruise but being a Canadian, I didn't pay much attention to what the limit was for Americans. It is complicated as so much has to be bought in USVI and one bottle has to be locally brewed, etc. Best to wait until you get on board the ship and ask the Cruise Director.
One new thing, as of January 1,2000, is regarding cigarettes. Cigarettes, made in the US for export cannot be brought back to the US by US citizens, but being a Canadian I could still bring in my 200 cigs as I was not staying in the US. I noticed that the Cruise Director never mentioned cigarettes in his talk. Didn't see anyone stocking up in the stores in St. Thomas like they usually did. Sorry I can't be more helpful re Puerto Rico. Maybe someone else knows.

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posted 03-30-2000 09:45 AM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the USVI I believe it is 6 per person. I will check with my husband and get back to you, he always buys the liquor.

Sympatico, I was in for a big suprise about the cigs! Guy in the liquor store told my husband it is a big mess on this issue. If you are caught, the fine in $2,000. There were a couple of people talking about saving the empty packs, then filling them with cigs purchased on St. Thomas.


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posted 03-30-2000 12:15 PM      Profile for MHP   Email MHP   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No Way. Just how low will smokers go...Filling up empty packages. You know the way they test Windchill factors here in the North Country is to send naked smokers outside and have them file reports.
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posted 03-30-2000 12:31 PM      Profile for Snowboarder     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you everyone!!!
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posted 04-02-2000 04:17 PM      Profile for gizmo   Email gizmo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I checked with my husband. It's 6 liters in the USVI.
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posted 04-04-2000 09:48 PM      Profile for WJCdiver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the USVI the duty free allowance per adult is one Imperial Gallon, i.e. 4 quarts (approx. litres) or 5 fifths the notmal size bottle that is slightly smaller than a quart. In addition you can bring in an additonal bottle (quart or fifth) if it is distilled in the USVI, which means basically USVI Rum - some of which is very good, or one of the 2 liquers that are distilled there, one is called Havensight, I don't know what the other is called.

Now pragmatically, at customs they don't generally check the sizes of the bottles nor that one is USVI distilled, so its probably safe to bring in 6 litres and they won't charge you any duty.

In addition you can bring in $1000 of duty free good per person, regardless of age which only matters for alcohol and tobacco. SZo if you have 5 people bring in $5000 dollars of goods. The allowance every where else is $400 per person and 1 quart per adult, including Puerto Rico.

Bill


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posted 04-05-2000 12:10 PM      Profile for Snowboarder     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, again!!! You folks are great!!!!!!
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posted 04-20-2000 06:41 PM      Profile for denisej   Email denisej   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WJCDiver is right. I just looked it up for our trip and you are allowed 5 liters per person plus 1 more if its USVI made. Also, you are allowed 1 bottle from any other island or the ships duty free store. So, you're only allowed 1 from San Juan.
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Gary T
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posted 04-25-2000 02:20 PM      Profile for Gary T   Email Gary T   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just back from the island and only bought 2 bottles, both on the ship because it was $2 cheaper on the ship than off. Anyway really just wanted to mention about the Cigs. We were told that if you brought cigs on the ship from the US to be sure to smoke them all because you could not bring them back home with you, do not know if this is true but it was announced on board, go figure.
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sympatico
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posted 04-25-2000 03:58 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gary T - that is right. Read my earlier post about this. These cigarettes are duty free and made in the US, so they are for use outside the US. There was a sign posted in the shop on the ship where I bought cigarettes to this effect. This law came into effect January 1, 2000.
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posted 05-07-2000 11:10 PM      Profile for Pam Kane   Author's Homepage   Email Pam Kane   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Snow ...

It all depends upon what you mean by "duty free".

You can go to the Bacardi factory or any Pueblo grocery store and buy CASES of rum and ship it back as luggage because, technically, you're already in the US. No duty on the purchase. You could buy cases of other stuff, too, but I don't recommend it. Probably cheaper at home.

You will clear customs at your first US port. If San Juan is the port on the way back, it's done and you can buy anything you want, "duty free".

There are several non-export rums, made in small quantities by Bacardi, Serralles and Barrillito, that are highly prized. The only place you can buy them is on the island.

Pam http://happysails.com


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posted 05-09-2000 11:32 AM      Profile for K&K   Email K&K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam: Can you expand on your customs statement as we have always had to clear customs/imigration when we disembarked the ship or when we flew back to the U.S.. I am curious. Maybe we have been doing it wrong or the hard way.
Kevin

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posted 05-09-2000 12:53 PM      Profile for Snowboarder     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Me again! I saved the receipt from the Duty-free store,(from our last cruise where San Juan was a destination),and, guess what? They have a phone #!!! My wife called and asked how much of the liquor purchased there could be brought back, without paying duty, and the clerk told her it was 5 liters for each adult. Thanks for all of your replies!!
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Pam Kane
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posted 06-20-2000 11:46 AM      Profile for Pam Kane   Author's Homepage   Email Pam Kane   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
K&K ...

Puerto Rico is part of the United States, even though it's not a state. (Maybe, someday, it will be.) Thus, when you purchase liquor (or anything else) on PR you are technically in the U.S.A. The prices in the grocery store or at the Bacardi factory are not "duty-free" prices.

The USVI are not part of the U.S. in the same way, thus there is a limit on "duty-free" purchases. Liquor from St. Thomas, for example, has a duty-free limit but it's often cheaper to buy more and pay the duty, particularly for liquers. Some people just whip down to the local K-mart and load up their suitcases with cheap booze and don't declare it. I always hope they get caught.

And that the Customs people pass on the info to the IRS.

What I don't know for sure is what happens if you buy liquor in the duty-free shops at the piers when you embark on a cruise. In theory, those purchases should be subject to the customs regulations of the ports one visits, but I've seen LOTS of booze sail out of those shops onto ships. And the sales people at the piers don't really check your tickets all that carefully if you make a post-cruise purchase. Don't try it at the airport, though.

My guess (and it's only a guess) is that if you still have a bottle left from the DFS at the pier in San Juan, you have to count it in your allowance when you come back into the country.

Pam (formerly of Puerto Rico)
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posted 07-19-2000 11:01 AM      Profile for hooked on cruising   Email hooked on cruising   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is an interesting topic. How does this effect people coming back home to Canada? How many bottles of duty free can we bring back here? Any help would be appreciated
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sympatico
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posted 07-19-2000 12:20 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hooked on Cruising - I have looked everywhere under "Canadian Gov't - Customs & Excise" and cannot find what our exemptions are. The only thing they said was "import of wine increased from 1.4L to 1.5" - big deal. However, this only applies if you do not claim other alcoholic beverages in your personal exemption. Guess we can bring back 1.5L of liquor.
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Green
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posted 07-25-2000 01:02 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
hooked on cruising/sympatico
I posted this earlier - ommited a few numbers (sorry) - you really do have to search for it - anyway - try this - http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4044em/rc4044-e.htm#P298_18832
I DECLARE - scroll down to TABLE OF CONTENTS - scroll down to RED •Personal Exemptions then •What are your personal exemptions - it is all there - Tobacco & alchol - gifts - prizes, awards, unaccompanied goods, etc. etc. - also list of Customs offices - lots of scrolling and reading.

The 'meat' of the matter -

PERSONAL EXEMPTIONS
What are your personal exemptions?
After an absence of 24 hours or more
You can claim up to $50 worth of goods without paying duty or taxes. This is your personal exemption. You cannot include tobacco and alcohol in your 24-hour exemption.
If the goods you bring in are worth more than $50 in total, you cannot claim this exemption. Instead, you have to pay duties on the full value.
After an absence of 48 hours or more
You can claim up to $200 worth of goods without paying duty or taxes. These goods can include some tobacco products and alcoholic beverages.
After an absence of seven days or more
You can claim up to $750 worth of goods without paying duty or taxes. These goods can include some tobacco products and alcoholic beverages.
To calculate the number of days you have been absent, do not include the date you leave Canada but include the date you return. It is dates that matter, not times. For example, we consider you to have been absent seven days if you left Friday the 7th and returned Friday the 14th.
Who is eligible for these exemptions?
You are eligible for a personal exemption if you are:
* a Canadian resident returning from a trip abroad;
* a former resident of Canada returning to live in this country; or
* a temporary resident of Canada.


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