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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-26-2004 07:28 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is question for you all to ponder.

I’ve never cruises to the Caribbean, mainly because it has never appealed to me. I’m more of a city tourist than a tropical island lover. I’m also not too fond of crowds, either.

But am I wrong? Are there attractions at the ports of call apart from sun, sand and snorkelling?

Which is more interesting, the Eastern or Western Caribbean? Any other interesting variations?


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-27-2004 11:05 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Come on all you experienced Carib Cruisers, please help!
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posted 04-27-2004 12:19 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello
Me too, I have never been to the Caribbean. I have heard there is not that much to see...

It seems to me that the most interesting place has the fewest visiting cruiseships : Cuba : Havana, the former capital of the Spanish Empire in the New World, lively gay "Paris of the Caribbean", , and now capital of Castro's Cuba, and a lot of other colonial cities and so. On picture it looks very interesting, and I have heard good stories about it.

A question, here, Cuba is a rather "normal" holiday destination, a bit more upmarket than the Dominican Republic, but offered by the mainstream tour operators (by aeroplane). Is this too the case in Britain ?

I'd like to visit one time, in Jamaica, the estate of Noel Coward ("Firefly" ?), where he is buried too (near Ian Flemings Goldeneye), I think it is near Port Antonio, but most cruiseships moor somewhere else I think.

J.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-27-2004 12:27 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Johan:
A question, here, Cuba is a rather "normal" holiday destination, a bit more upmarket than the Dominican Republic, but offered by the mainstream tour operators (by aeroplane). Is this too the case in Britain ?

Yes Cuba is becoming more popular with Brits, by plane, but not mainstream. I'm told it is facinationg. I think Fred.Olsen cruised there a few years ago?

I don't think American's are allowed to go there, are they?

So any comments on what Johan and I are missing in the Carib?


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posted 04-27-2004 01:25 PM      Profile for chateausmith   Email chateausmith   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Any cruise to the Caribean should include Trinidad,where you can visit the Asa Wright Bird Sanctuary high up in the tropical rain forest. Antigua for the very best beaches. Puerto Limon for a ride on the canals to see basking crocs and if you are lucky a sloth or two......and St Thomas for shopping!! Bon Voyage.
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sympatico
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posted 04-27-2004 02:00 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I have been to most of the islands and I go to the Caribbean to get away from this darn cold weather and really not to sightsee, so I am not much help.

No, Malcolm, Americans are not allowed to go to Cuba but a few ships do go there, however they do not leave from the US. Brits and Canadians usually fly there. I know Topgun went to Cuba on a ship that left from Aruba - can't remember the name of the ship.

Johan - most cruise ships do not go near Port Antonio, but dock at either Ocho Rios or Montego Bay - a long drive from PA. Although Jamaica is a beautiful island, I have no desire to go back - too much crime. Trinidad is also dangerous and unless you go on a ship's excursion I wouldn't venture out on my own.

Barbados - Harrison Cave - you board an electric tram which descends slowly into the cavern. Indirect lighting enhances the thousands of gleaming stalagmites and stalactites. - interesting.

Cozumel - Mayan ruins at Tulum - we enjoyed the tour but once was enough. Western Carib is more historical with many places to see the ruins.

Panama Canal - very interesting and well worth seeing. I've done the full transit twice (hot and humid) and a partial transit a couple of years ago.

St. Thomas - great for snorkelling, beaches and shopping, shopping, shopping.

We were in Costa Rica a couple of times - once stopping in Puerto Caldera - the climate is more temperate and we enjoyed our excursion. I found Puerto Limon, hot, humid and dirty. Visited a Banana factory and it was OK - wouldn't go there again. Saw a sloth in Cartegna - man had one on his shoulder and would charge if you wanted to take a picture of it.

The problem is that I have been to many of these islands so many times, that now I just stay on the ship. It's quiet when everyone has gone ashore and I have the pool to myself.

Sorry I'm not much help.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-27-2004 05:38 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sympatico:
Sorry I'm not much help.


Very helpful indeed! I'm deffinately not a beach person - I'm more into historical tours.


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Brian_O
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posted 04-28-2004 12:25 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Caribbean virgin? The you should visit the Virgin Islands first. Sorry! Couldn't resist.

Brian


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dmwnc1
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posted 04-29-2004 11:14 AM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been to both Eastern and Western Caribbean...and hated it. Every island was visually basically the same, had the same offerings, almost the same peoples, as if they beamed the population from one island to the next while the ship was steaming overnight.

And in the Fall-Spring seasons you can pull into any Caribbean port with 4-6 other ships. Talk about crowded!

I prefer a cruise that invokes culture and thought, or something with majestic or spectacular scenery. I am not a beach person, dont go near the water, and dont 'consume' spirits to any extent.

I prefer Alaska cruises, Canada/New England, Med and Scan/Russia, river cruises in the US, especially in the Pacific NW.

[ 04-29-2004: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-29-2004 04:06 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I've been to both Eastern and Western Caribbean...and hated it. Every island was visually basically the same...

You have just confirmed my fears! I am of a very similar mind-set to you!

Here we encounter a paradox; The Caribbean is the most popular cruising area of the world, so either you and I have weird tastes or all those million of tourists are all wrong!

Can anybody give me a good reason to cruise the Carib apart from sun and sand?

[ 04-29-2004: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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Johan
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posted 04-29-2004 05:02 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And it is close to the USA, nation of cruisers.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-30-2004 07:52 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good point, Johan!

What time of the year are the best weather conditions in the Caribbean (as in not so hot and humid)?


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John Bowman
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posted 04-30-2004 08:21 AM      Profile for John Bowman   Email John Bowman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Can I just throw my vote in with Malcolm - the thought of waking every morning to an almost identical combination of palm trees, beaches, colourful local markets ... pick an island and stay on it at half the price. Cruise to see the sites, not the same site over and over and over ....
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-30-2004 12:03 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What time of the year are the best weather conditions in the Caribbean (as in not so hot and humid)?

Lets put it another way, which Carib ports of call do have something worth doing/seeing apart from beaches and water sports?


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eroller
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posted 04-30-2004 01:57 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
What time of the year are the best weather conditions in the Caribbean (as in not so hot and humid)?

Lets put it another way, which Carib ports of call do have something worth doing/seeing apart from beaches and water sports?



January is a very nice time to cruise the Caribbean. Not as humid, prices are low, and kids are in school. It's a win, win to be sure.

Besides beaches, shopping, a few historical buildings and monuments, and water sports there is not much to do in the Caribbean. I've been so many times that usually I don't even get off the ship unless I need something. I love swimming, water sports, and sun tanning so I never get bored of the Caribbean.

Personally, I prefer the Eastern Caribbean. It's nicer IMO and much more beautiful. It's not flat like Cozumel and Grand Cayman but has beautiful mountains. I love renting a jeep in St. Thomas for beach hopping and the freedom to stop whenever I see something interesting.

Good luck!

Ernie


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posted 05-01-2004 04:25 PM      Profile for lancet        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I dont agree that all caribbean ports are alike. I have been to all of them, some many times. Although some are similiar, each has its own flavor--from quiet laid back St. Kitts to the hustle/bustle of St. Thomas and Barbados. I like to wander around the town and sometimes you find interesting parks which the locals use. I am mindful of being in bad areas tho, and I wouldnt roam around ports in Jamaica or Trinidad either.

There are cultural and scenic areas in all ports, so sun and sand is not the only attraction in the Caribbean.

Part of the real pleasures of cruising the Caribbean is the balmy breezy nights on the ship as you go between ports. I love Alaska, but you freeze your rear off at night.

So, Malcolm, you should definitely take a caribbean cruise, and do so with an open mind. I prefer Southern Caribbean most, followed by Eastern


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 05-01-2004 05:01 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What are 'Costa Maya' and 'Belize City' like? What's to do there?
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quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
What are 'Costa Maya' and 'Belize City' like? What's to do there?

Costa Maya = Mayan ruins excursions.

Don't worry about it. Take that shirt off, go for swim, get some sun, and don't be afraid of the sand and surf!

FRANKIE SAY RELAAAAX!!!


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posted 05-11-2004 01:39 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A bit OT, but I though Richard declared war to Stelios!
Wouldn't it be great to have Virgin Cruises?

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posted 05-12-2004 03:23 PM      Profile for Salaison   Email Salaison   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
wow...statements like these makes me wonder........now i know, ya'll have never been to the caribbean...and guys the caribbean islands aren't just made up of jamaica , cuba or puerto rico.....seems thats the only islands people know. But its very sad. Whether its the eastern or western caribbean, all the islands are very beautiful and unique....and i mean unique, NO Caribbean island is the same. Sand and Sea excellent!....So before the Judgements and "WHAT ya'll heard"....(hear say) Come experiences the Island for yourselves.....One person's likes can be different from anothers....So instead of seat here, talking about stuff you have never experience......Take the Trip!
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posted 05-12-2004 05:00 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Salaison:
wow...statements like these makes me wonder........now i know, ya'll have never been to the caribbean...and guys the caribbean islands aren't just made up of jamaica , cuba or puerto rico.....seems thats the only islands people know. ...Take the Trip!

Thank you. I was wondering when someone would chime in with a "pro-Caribbean" view.

East and West, Volacnic or Coral, I think there is tremendous variety amongst the islands especially if you can break away from the beaten path. It's always important to be careful, but if you do a little homework you can easily and safely explore most islands with a local guide who will show you more than just the tourist traps.

For a little variety try St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the other Windward islands. Visit our Caribbean Destination Page for more info.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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St Thomas is my least favorite Carribean Island. It is on a par with Blackpool and Asbury Park. What is left of the natural fauna is pretty, but the built part is hideous, as well as 15,000 people crammed in when 5 megaships dock there per day.

Bermuda, not in the Carribean, is the
un-St. Thomas. Ships leave from NYC, Phila, Boston, Baltimore etc. Only caveat is crossing the rough Gulf Stream.


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posted 05-13-2004 11:03 AM      Profile for Barryboat   Author's Homepage   Email Barryboat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm, sit back... relax... and let a professional give you advice on the Eastern & Western Caribbean. I lived on the Eastern & Western Caribbean for two years week after week, and there is plenty of interesting sights to see besides the beaches and the crowds. I actually get a thrill pulling into St. Thomas AND SEEING ALL THE SHIPS! Sure the crowds can be a bit overwelming at times, but if you do some research and know where to go and when....you can avoid much of the crowd scene.

Grand Cayman, for example: They have a wonderful submarine ride that takes you down about 2000 feet over the ledge to a shipwreck...The submarine only has room for three people so it's pretty intimate and no crowds, and that sub can go really deep allowing you to see things that few people get a chance to see. (I'm not talking about the 50 passenger sub that only goes down 100 feet) In Grand Cayman, you can visit HELL, and send a postcard from there as well. Visit the turtle farm...very interesting. Nice shopping, but expensive. The people are very nice in Cayman as well. It is HOT and HUMID in Cayman however.

Jamaica has some interesting places to visit. (I'm not a huge fan of Jamaica, because the people are very pushy, and there are so many con artists on the prowl) Dunns River Falls is fun. (crowds though) Plantation is interesting, and there is a beautiful garden to explore. Shopping can be interesting in Jamaica. Horse-back riding on the beach and through some of the villages was always fun.

Tulum is a must see in (Cozumel) Playa Del Carmen...ancient Mayan ruins by the sea is unique.

St. Thomas....Tree-Top view is nice...Rent a scooter and explore the homes outside of the tourists areas. I never had enough time in St. Thomas, because I was always going on the NORWAY while in port, and visiting other ships.

Southern Caribbean is more port intensive and there is so much to see. So many unique cultures blended together. Lot's of colors, lush greenery, tropical paradise...Malcolm, Take the plunge and give the Caribbean a try.


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posted 05-13-2004 04:05 PM      Profile for Eric   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm, surprised no one has mentioned San Juan yet-plenty of history there as with Santo Domigo Dom Rep
Antigua-English harbour, Somerset(?) heights & Nelsons dockyard views cannot be beaton
Grenada pretty & a fort on the hill trips to spice platations.
St Lucia Pigeon point has a small museum
Dominica the rain forest tour is worth it
Playa del Carmen- Tulum & Xel ha lagoon

But you really must get wet & snorkel, viewing the underwater life will change your life!!
Eric


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Yeah i did mention san juan as in Puerto rico, but those places are own world wide. You would be surprise that many people think that the caribbean is just made up of those islands jamaica, Puerto Rico and Barbados, Virgin Is. and maybe Trindad & Tabago. This is not so....there are alotttttttttttttttttttt more...........and as Eric said..Check out the Underwater life......Once is u down, you're addicted 4life
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