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Dotty
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posted 08-11-2004 04:56 PM      Profile for Dotty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have never joined a forum before, but wanted others to know of my experience with Shore Trips.Com. My husband and I booked a snorkeling trip with Captain Marvin (Grand Cayman) through Shore Trips. The day before our arrival I came down with the "gastro-intestinal illess" that sometimes goes around cruise ships. The ship's doctor gave me medication, a shot (no charge) and quarantined me to my cabin for 72 hours. My husband went to the office of Capt. Marvins and showed them papers from the doctor that I was unable to leave the ship. The girl there was very nice and said she would put in for a full refund that afternoon. Shore Trips has a no refund policy 2 or 3 days before the shore excursion. Upon arriving home we received a notice from Shore Trips saying their vendor had no right to offer us a refund and they would only give us a partial refund. I said I would send them proof from the doctor's office that I could not leave the ship...but they said "NO". We are sailing to the Caymans again in Sept. and asked if we could just reschedule our excursion for that time. Again, the answer was "NO". So, while I knew about their no refund policy, I felt this was unavoidable on our part. Just want everyone out there to be aware of this and to think twice before booking shore excursion through Shore Trips.
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sympatico
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posted 08-11-2004 05:31 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's exactly why I book all my excursions through the ship. I refuse to do any on-line booking whether it be for a cruise or an excursion.

Sorry that you came down the the GI illness and do hope you are feeling better now. There is nothing worse than being ill when you are away from home. I know.!

Just a suggestion - Why not book directly with Captain Marvin when you are in Grand Cayman in September.

http://www.captainmarvins.com/

[ 08-11-2004: Message edited by: sympatico ]


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 08-11-2004 06:28 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Dotty:
I said I would send them proof from the doctor's office that I could not leave the ship...but they said "NO". We are sailing to the Caymans again in Sept. and asked if we could just reschedule our excursion for that time. Again, the answer was "NO".

I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune. However, if you miss anything (train, plane, bus or shore tour etc.) through illness you cannot expect a refund - unless you are insured against it!

Would you holiday insurance not cover this? Did you try making a claim?


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posted 08-13-2004 11:28 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune. However, if you miss anything (train, plane, bus or shore tour etc.) through illness you cannot expect a refund - unless you are insured against it!

Would you holiday insurance not cover this? Did you try making a claim?


Exactly - why should the supplier take the risk of you being ill on the day?

The other thing I'm wondering is why the OP booked through another website instead of direct with Captain Marvin? Could it be that the other website was offering a discount? Would Captain Marvin have been more accommodating in "his" terms and conditions if booked directly? Again, it may be a case of you getting what you pay for. If the company is prepared to take a risk like this (ie allowing you to cancel at short notice if you are ill), they usually have to charge more for it.


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julieansfield
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posted 09-13-2004 05:54 PM      Profile for julieansfield   Email julieansfield   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I feel I need to address this problem, as I am a co-owner of ShoreTrips. We instituted our policy after beginning our travels throughout the Caribbean. So often wonderful operators were "stood up" at the pier when travelers changed their minds once they got on board, and they would pass right by the guide.

We agreed, for the benefit of these folks who depended upon those bookings for their income, that we would not allow cancellations during the last 10 days before the date of the tour. We do refund for anything that is beyond the control of the traveler, like weather or ship itinerary changes.

We suggest several times during the booking process that travel insurance companies will cover the cost of our tours and we highly recommend it.

We certainly understand the problem this couple had - I actually was the one to respond to her - but we did pay Captain Marvin for her seats as they were unable to sell them at the last minute.

In this instance, the illness sounds legitimate, but what about the fellow who parties too much one night and cannot dive the next day. We just don't feel that the dive shop should suffer the consequences. And who can differentiate between those who are really sick and those who decide to sleep in?

Because of the research we do beforehand, anyone can book our tours and know that they are going to have the best, most memorable day(s) of their vacation, all preplanned. We know that because we get fabulous feedback.

One of the reasons is that we are the only company researching for the traveler as well as protecting the operator and both sides are appreciative of this. Our operators have done the most amazing things to fulfill the dreams of the visitor.

We really don't have many issues with this policy so we have no plans to make a change. We have simplified and insured your port experience and it is a shame that these people were unable to enjoy the experience. At some point, we plan to offer our own insurance, and then this will not be an issue at all.

I hope you all understand that this is a policy to benefit those who truly need that help.

Sincerely,
Julie Ansfield


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Another Cruise Addict
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posted 09-14-2004 11:02 AM      Profile for Another Cruise Addict   Email Another Cruise Addict   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To obtain another data point (I do not have an agenda to promote and was just curious), I emailed Port Promotions and asked what their cancelation policy is. Their response:

"Full refunds will be made to any excursion cancelled due to weather or ship missing ports, however no refunds can be made for failure to be at the designated departure location."

So it does not sound like Julie's policy is out of line with industry standards.

Having said that, the cruise lines themselves seem to have the best overall cancellation policy. Most cruise lines give you 24 hours to cancel for any reason. From NCL's webstie:

"All tours cancelled within 24 hours prior to arrival in the port where the tour is scheduled to operate are non-refundable. "

Just something to consider when selecting an excursion.

[ 09-16-2004: Message edited by: Another Cruise Addict ]


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julieansfield
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posted 09-15-2004 05:22 PM      Profile for julieansfield   Email julieansfield   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At ShoreTrips, we feel we are not for everybody, but the traveler who wants to connect with the culture, enjoy a smaller experience and more personal attention is the beneficiary of our research, time and effort.

I agree that the cruiseships have the most lenient policy but also they must entertain large numbers of cruisers. The growing group of independent travelers are the ones who find value as well as quality on our tours.

Again I suggest travel insurance for all travel. Today TravelGuard is including terrorism in its coverage. If you purchase this kind of protection, which will cover flight delays, etc.. your tours with Shoretrips are also refundable if necessary.

Our best hope is that everyone has a safe and healthy trip, therefore having only good memories to bring back home.

Sincerely,
Julie Ansfield


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Green
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posted 09-16-2004 12:26 AM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have to agree with julieansfield's reasoning.

Living in a condo, our Recreation Committee frequently arranges (totally non-profit) daylong outings - Matinee theatre performances followed by dinner or dinner followed by evening performance - casino visits, Day at The Races etc. Whenever possible, some shopping, walk-about and coffee break time is also included.

Usually a 47-seat luxury coach is arranged, together with dining reservations, admissions, etc. etc. Participants must pay in full by a certain date, (set by coach and catering suppliers). It is clearly stated that refunds will not be made for last minute cancellations or 'no shows'. Participants are strongly advised to buy Cancellation Insurance.

The fact that 4 or five people decide to cancel for one reason or another does not alter the fact that the coach and all other arrangements have to be paid for. Our Recreation Committee does not have extra funds available and it would be unreasonably to expect the other participants to pay extra at the last minute to cover the shortfall.

.......and remember, ship excursions usually cost more than those of local operators.........


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posted 09-16-2004 07:47 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by julieansfield:
I agree that the cruiseships have the most lenient policy but also they must entertain large numbers of cruisers. The growing group of independent travelers are the ones who find value as well as quality on our tours.
I'd have to cynically add to that by saying that the cruise lines can afford to have generous cancellation policies - after you've paid through the nose on the ship they'd better have something to offer in exchange.

For me, though, that's usually not enough. The cruise ship price is only worth paying if it's the only way of doing something I want to do.

And I know that I should insure against the risk of being sick - and I do. I don't see any reason why I should dump that risk onto a company like Julie's, and I still find it amazing that anyone thinks that it's appropriate to expect it.


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