This reminds us that those fortunate to have dillybar and Dillydude parents will be creating the usual annual disruptions on cruise ships circling the Caribbean during July and August.

For anyone who is a first time cruiser it is well to be aware that these cretins will be aboard, taking over the pools, jamming the elevators and making a general nuisance of themselves.

For those that can delay, mid September to November offer perfect opportunities for economic and relaxing cruising, old style.

There was a possibility that an upgraded Canadian style Chicken Cannon would be available for the season. Unfortunately, not so.
The cannon was upgraded with the ability to pneumatically hurl miscreant kids with weights up to 100 pounds over the stern of any cruise ship.

Unfortunately, the wild life preservation people banned the machine as being unfair to global marine life.

Well, its good to daydream.

Topgunl

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For anyone who is a first time cruiser, you could easily get confused between a ship and a retirement home. This is because cruise ships are often a cheaper option!

You will see the 'Grays' on board, taking over the pools, wearing swimming costumes far to skimpy for their advancing years, jamming the elevators and making a general nuisance of themselves.

You will hear them snoring, dribbling and general walking slowly and bumping into things. Worst of all you will here them constantly complain about the good old days and the youth of today!

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Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
The big danger of cruising off-season is that you will be surrounded by the Gray Dollar (or pound) as we Brits say.

For anyone who is a first time cruiser, you could easily get confused between a ship and a retirement home. This is because cruise ships are often a cheaper option!

You will see the 'Grays' on board, taking over the pools, wearing swimming costumes far to skimpy for their advancing years, jamming the elevators and making a general nuisance of themselves.

You will hear them snoring, dribbling and general walking slowly and bumping into things. Worst of all you will here them constantly complain about the good old days and the youth of today!

So be warned!

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Malcolm, how long will it take for you to join that 'grey mass' ? ? ?

If school schedules are not an object there is really no good reason to take a vacation during school holidays. If you choose another date, it will likely be cheaper, less crowded (by ANYONE), in many cases the weather is better (in the case of summer anyway as it's often very HOT in many places in summer), etc.

Now we've really never been on a ship that was "trashed" by kids as some describe, but I don't doubt it happens. On the other hand our previous two cruises have been during the winter and spring school holidays respectively and in each case the ships were completely full, there were a lot of kids, and we paid probably twice the price as we would have if we didn't have that time restriction.

Another thing worth noting is that kids usually count as third/fourth pax in a cabin, meaning the overall number of pax on the ship is likely higher during school holidays.

So while I don't agree with the above topic (or rather the manner in which it is presented) I certainly can't disagree with the general point. Excepting places where the "off season" is created by bad weather, it IS the time to travel, if you can do that!

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Had my parents not taken me and my siblings on cruises when I was a child, I would not be taking any as an adult and not on the board throwing political bombs and yanking your chain.

Just like the religious institutions and tobacco companies; cruise lines need to get future life long cruisers hooked while they are young.

PS: I have heard that the Disney Magic/Wonder ships and cruise format designed for families never have problems. One never sees them since there are multiple activities for kids of all age groups. It is not if there is something to do but decide what to do.

Princess and NCL also have a myriad of activities for young cruisers and teens.

If ships have hookers on board, the teens will be kept occupied and after be too exhausted to be rowdy. What a profit center for the cruise lines

Doug, Kietaro, Jake14, Commodore, other teens/ children-- What activities do you participate in?

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Malcolm, how long will it take for you to join that 'grey mass' ?

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I think that Cruiseny got it perfectly and gave a very fair assessment of the situation.

It is a fact and is part of modern day cruising. To those involved, it is obviously an enjoyment and not a problem.

I merely point out that it can be avoided by those who have never had a cruise ruined by being ignorant of what can happening.

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I'm not going to get old. I refuse!

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Doug . . . What activities do you participate in?

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I attribute that behavior to their parents and their upbringing. Their parents are usually a pain as well. How does the saying go? "The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree".

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Originally posted by M3MAN2K1:
TOPGUN- GET A LIFE... YOU WERE A KID SERIOUSLY, U NEED SOME HELP... MAYBE IF YOU LEARNED TO LOOSEN UP THE LITTLE THINGS WOULDENT BOTHER YOU... GO COMPLAIN SOMEWHERE ELSE...

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You obviously have yet to develop a sense of humour!

And what's with the "Go complain somewhere else"?
- Joe, has he got shares in your website?

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I attribute that behavior to their parents and their upbringing. Their parents are usually a pain as well. How does the saying go? "The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree".

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Game, set and match to Topgun, in my opinion.

M3MAN2K1...re the above. It does illustrate part of the problem. Putting a message in CAPITAL letters as you did, is considered to be Shouting. A 15 year old shouting on this board is I suggest unnecessarily rude. I'd suggest an apology.

Mr. Wilson Topgun

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The kids and cruising pot hasn't been stirred in a while. I'm glad to see all of the commotion is has caused!

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Steve - obviously he has no respect for his elders

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Putting a message in CAPITAL letters as you did, is considered to be Shouting. A 15 year old shouting on this board is I suggest unnecessarily rude. I'd suggest an apology.

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Ahhh, Topgun doing what he does best!
Keep up the good work, Topgun!

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Well thank you captian obvious!

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Your intelligence as a kid shows

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